Nation of meat eating animal lovers?

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SkodaMart said:
Oh, I've put plenty of thought into it.

Dairy farming in many respects is worse than meat farming.
Cows being forced to reproduce every year, having calves removed from them as soon as they are born.
Mistreatment by workers, punching udders for a laugh - I've watched all the videos and many are sickening.
Dairy cattle also have huge amounts of antibiotics to prevent puss and boils on their udders, from constant over milking.

I know the score, I don't pretend to be perfect.
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Here we go........

"I've watched all the videos and many are sickening."

Go work on a dairy farm then get back to us.
 
I'm curious actually OP - what is your opinion on mass rainforest deforestation in places like Brazil?

Because surely by your logic, anyone who is against that, but eats lettuce is just as hypocritical?
 
Haggisman said:
That argument goes completely out of the window for anyone who has caught and killed their own meat/fish ;)
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Not really. I eat meat, but feel much happier eating meat which comes from my neighbour shooting it (ducks and pheasant) than I do the intensively reared and abattoir culled stuff from elsewhere.

By which I mean: the process of catching and killing your own wild food is nowhere near as horrendous as the fate handed down to our meat stocks. You can still be in denial of the atrocity of mass-farmed food whilst killing your own meats.
 
Vegetarians and vegans are just as bad.

I know vegans that have pet ferrets. That they feed on a diet of MEAT. Because presumably their cute fuzzy creature is more important than all the other cute fuzzy creatures. It's pathetic. At least I'm honest enough to say that I don't give a crap that we kill animals for food whilst still having a dog as a pet.
 
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FishFluff said:
Vegetarians and vegans are just as bad.

I know vegans that have pet ferrets. That they feed on a diet of MEAT. Because presumably their cute fuzzy creature is more important than all the other cute fuzzy creatures. It's pathetic. At least I'm honest enough to say that I don't give a crap that we kill animals for food whilst still having a dog as a pet.
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That's because a ferret doesn't have a choice, it's a carnivore pure and simple - see the chart above.
 
I just find it funny that there's a comparison of emotions between domestic animals being killed, and animals which are bred to be killed and used for their meat.
 
SkodaMart said:
Watch the video I've just linked above.

Nice humane farming methods.
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This isn't a response to anything I've said. You seem to just be deflecting now. I'm not talking about humane farming. I'm pointing out that you will be using products on a daily basis that are by products of the meat industry, that are really no different to consuming meat, and additionally how hypocritical you are for stating that you think dairy is worse, but you still consume it. You don't seem to really have a cogent argument, and unfortunately you seem to have fallen into the typical role of a mouthy preachy vegetarian.
 
Care to explain what argument you're trying to back up with that image, or are you just going to plonk it there with no context at all and expect us to get the point you're failing dramatically to make? :p
 
SkodaMart said:
Exactly my point, it's not on our doorstep so who gives a ****?

43 dogs in Manchester?? OMG!!

That's horrendous where can I donate?

Makes me sick.
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human nature i'm afraid, same phenomenon as the 'crowd' that stands and watches someone being murdered, every man among them screaming in his head "what is someone going to do about this!?" without ever getting round to the "what am I going to do about this?"

i'm not going to deny, tragedy as it is, that it hasn't affected me that much because:
a] i don't have a dog
b] i dont live near manchester

neither am i affected by the "horrible" slaughter of animals for meat having never been inside an abattoir.
 
SkodaMart said:
That's because a ferret doesn't have a choice, it's a carnivore pure and simple - see the chart above.
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So keeping ferrets as pets (which have of course been bred to be pets) whilst feeding them food which comes from the same mass-killing process as human food isn't in any way hypocritical? Why are their ferrets allowed to live yet other animals are slaughtered cruelly for their pets to live?
 
FishFluff said:
So keeping ferrets as pets (which have of course been bred to be pets) whilst feeding them food which comes from the same mass-killing process as human food isn't in any way hypocritical? Why are their ferrets allowed to live yet other animals are slaughtered cruelly for their pets to live?
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Animals who kill to feed themselves are not morally wrong.

Ferrets kill to survive.

Humans do not need to.
 
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