Nation of meat eating animal lovers?

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Zethor said:
I believe it's barbaric and shameful how we treat most of the animals we eat, particularly in the context of factory farming. Unfortunately, there are no viable alternatives at the moment, the food these thinking, feeling animals provide is needed for our survival and progress.

It will take at least a century before alternatives such as artificially grown meat or insects become widely available and cheap enough to replace our current supply of proteins. This goes only for advanced countries, the slaughter in the rest of the world will no doubt continue for a very long time.
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We have the highest standards in the world of animal welfare in this country.

Blame the consumer and the government if you don't like the way food production has developed in this country. The more the consumer shops at Tesco and the like the more factory farming because the norm.
 
Haggisman said:
However by keeping one, you are causing the slaughter of animals for food, so there goes your moral argument...
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If the only meat that was killed was used to feed animals that needed it...

Isn't that called natural balance? Like what happens on the African savannah?
 
I eat meat, and was not upset by the dog arson. I think that it was an unpleasant act (which should be punished, not least because it surely reflects quite a sick mind), and it was an unpleasant way to die, but hearing about it was not in the slightest upsetting. I guess my attitude would be along the lines of "its just dogs". I am always slightly bemused by some peoples attachment to dogs (and other pets), and wish that there were far fewer dogs kept as pets in the uk (I hate the ever present dog poo).
 
spoffle said:
Why don't you define healthy? As it is a vague term without context.
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agreed, although I would disagree, To me being a vegetarian, while acceptable as a diet is not a "balanced" diet in the true sense of the word.

OhEsEcks said:
I'm leaving. This guy gets all his "facts" about what we are and how we evolved from PETA pseudo science activists.
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I thought you would stay and have some more "Fun" :D
 
SkodaMart said:
If the only meat that was killed was used to feed animals that needed it...

Isn't that called natural balance? Like what happens on the African savannah?
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No not at all. because you are driving the pet industry thus creating a demand for factory farmed meat.
 
Just look at that:

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wilber said:
We have the highest standards in the world of animal welfare in this country.

Blame the consumer and the government if you don't like the way food production has developed in this country. The more the consumer shops at Tesco and the like the more factory farming because the norm.
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Retailers do a very good job of hiding how our food arrives on our plate. That disconnect helps them to devalue the hidden costs of such production so that we are not afraid of buying wasteful amounts. People are so used to the disconnect that they won't accept the truth, or don't want to see it. People talk of "humane" killing, and "welfare" farming without actually having a clue about what it means.

That's not a conspiracy, it's just marketing.
 
Rybo89 said:
Just look at that:

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if only thats was small enough to fit as my signature lol.
That is an awesome sight to be hold. My mouth watering with anticipation. I would lick the screen if I didn't know better :D

OhEsEcks said:
I got suspended for two weeks the last time I called someone out on ********. I'm not doing it again.
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A fair point there, it was "fun" while it lasted i guess. :)

SkodaMart said:
We will start with weight.

Many older meat eaters are overweight, even obese.
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any proof/ studies. Also if you are using BMI for that I should slap some sense into you lol. BMI is a sack of ****
 
I think we'd all be far healthier if we ate aliens.

C'mon guys, I should know, my dad is a queen wasp who hunts them to poo through their letterbox.
 
SkodaMart said:
If the only meat that was killed was used to feed animals that needed it...

Isn't that called natural balance? Like what happens on the African savannah?
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Are you being dense?

A pet ferret, which exists only to be kept as a pet, is not the same as a wild animal in the African savannah.

A lion is born from nature into nature.

A pet ferret is born into domestication to be kept as a pet, leading a life it otherwise would not have.. This then leads to animals being killed to keep something alive as a pet.

Also, OP. You claim you don't need to eat meat, therefore you don't. From the thread it seems you drink milk or eat dairy products, you do not need to drink milk or eat dairy products so why do you?
 
porushinobu said:
agreed, although I would disagree, To me being a vegetarian, while acceptable as a diet is not a "balanced" diet in the true sense of the word.
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Of course though I'm more interested in how he has deduced that he is "more healthy" and by what definition he's going by with regards to "healthy".
 
SkodaMart said:
If the only meat that was killed was used to feed animals that needed it...

Isn't that called natural balance? Like what happens on the African savannah?
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If carnivorous animals (like dogs, cats, ferrets, etc.) weren't bred to be kept as pets, there would be far fewer of them (there are something like 8 million each of pet cats and dogs in the UK). How many animals do you think are killed purely to feed those pets, which wouldn't otherwise exist?
 
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