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Haswell-e worth the upgrade?

steelwolf

steelwolf

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Currently im still on a phenom 2 940 which is dying a slow death, ive had it overclocked since i got it and its not as stable as it once was.

Basically setup is

M3a79-t deluxe, It was good in its day but that days been and gone
Ocz Reaper 1066 ram (ddr2) Out of my 8 gig 6 has died.
hd 6950 unlocked to 6970 (still going strong apart from some fire damage)
Coolermaster 850w psu
Custom water loop

I recently bought my first ssd with the intention to get another to raid 0 them but was dissapointed with my slow sata ports speed.

Either way im living in 2009 here so my question is obviously regarding the upgrade to haswell-e and whether its worth upgrading to or should i go for something else? I wouldnt rule out amd.

Computer will be used for everything from games to photoshop/premier pro to streaming.And more than likely will be overclocked as high as i can put it.

Im planning picking up a r9 290 soon but think i better get the cpu etc first. I dont want to be spending mental money but if a few extra hundred here or there makes a difference i would go for it.


any opinions?


thanks
 
I dont really want to spend more money than i have to but would u reccomend the 5930 over the 5820 or is the 5820 plenty good?

I think im just gonna up and bit this bullet. Skylake is too far away
 
steelwolf said:
I dont really want to spend more money than i have to but would u reccomend the 5930 over the 5820 or is the 5820 plenty good?

I think im just gonna up and bit this bullet. Skylake is too far away
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Think it basically boils down to if you have 1 GPU get a 5920k, if you have more get a 5930k.
 
I dont want to be spending mental money but if a few extra hundred here or there makes a difference i would go for it.
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Why not roll with a 4690k or 4790k? I was under the general rule of thumb was: unless you really _need_ the hexcore stick with normal haswell as the few extra hundred doesn't add much?

In many circumstances haswell-e will underperform normal haswell due to lower overclocking potential. Maybe streaming is the thing would make it worthwhile to stretch to haswell-e, but I would definitely try to find some evidence that the hexcores will actually improve things for you over the quads.
 
BurntProc said:
Why not roll with a 4690k or 4790k? I was under the general rule of thumb was: unless you really _need_ the hexcore stick with normal haswell as the few extra hundred doesn't add much?

In many circumstances haswell-e will underperform normal haswell due to lower overclocking potential. Maybe streaming is the thing would make it worthwhile to stretch to haswell-e, but I would definitely try to find some evidence that the hexcores will actually improve things for you over the quads.
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4790K still an excellent choice but think most have basket 'fantasy' shopped and the difference between an 4790k setup vs an 5820K set up is about £200-300, if you got the extra bit why not :)

I don't think a single game out there yet uses those extra 2 cores well after looking at several game reviews with haswell e, video/graphic editing or if your doing virtual stuff or other cpu intensive task course the 5820K makes sense here.
 
If you can afford it, go for it. it's a great platform (even though in its early days) and coming from a Phenom cpu, it'll be night and day
 
I'm also looking to upgrade to the Haswell-E platform. One question I'd like to ask though is that would a equivalently priced Xeon be better for things such as 3D rendering and video encoding than an i7? I also game but nothing extreme, just a 5870 running at 1600x1050 but will obviously upgrade at some point if and when I get a larger monitor.

Sorry to high jack the thread. :p
 
If I were you I'd go for the i7 just because it's unlocked and would therefore give you more headroom.
If you're only going to use it for 24/7 computing tasks, then that's what xeon are designed for
 
Has anyone seen any proper benchmarking on the difference between the 28 lanes and 40 lane CPUs?

would be interested to see... iirc the 5820 is limited to x16/x8 in xfire or SLI - just wondering how much that matters.
 
If you're only using one GPU then 5820k. I would hunt around for the cheapest DDR4 you can find too, as ram speed makes little difference. I read an article recently on DDR3 tests and going from 1600mhz all the way up to 2933mhz made a 5% difference. Going from 2000 to 2933 made a 2% difference. So whatever you do, do not over invest in DDR4 as you'll regret it a year from now.

Even if it doesn't have heatspreaders don't worry, as it's really easy to remove your old ones and put them on your new ram, or, just buy some Chinese kits from Ebay for £2 a set.

The 5820k has a good few merits (though overclocking isn't really one, Boom is very lucky as the norm is 4-4.2ghz on these) but you can easily remove every one of those merits by over spending on RAM.

It would appear the 5820k is the 5930ks that do not clock very well, so bear that in mind if you're looking for good clock speeds. If you're into value? it's one of the best chips Intel have made in a long time.
 
Completely agree with what has been said about the ram. It's ridiculously expensive at the minute. A year from now we'll get way better price performance ratios. Only reason I went with dominator platinums is because I always loved the look of them and could finally afford some.
 
darkblueslider said:
Has anyone seen any proper benchmarking on the difference between the 28 lanes and 40 lane CPUs?

would be interested to see... iirc the 5820 is limited to x16/x8 in xfire or SLI - just wondering how much that matters.
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Think past reviews showed going from 16x to 8x lost 5% performance ie few fps.

Nothing to really worry about. 5820K is still a great choice if you are planning on 3-4 cards then 5930K makes sense.Also one can consider getting a single card with 2 gpus on it.
 
If you're only using one card, you won't max out the lanes and you won't see a difference. As said before, it's only when you go for multiple gpus/ pcie devices that you might get a slight performance drop. I've seen 4770ks with 3 gpus and unless you're benching, it's more than enough for most of us
 
R3X said:
I disagree with DDR 4 being expensive 38 quid for 4gig DDR4 is pretty good imo, get 16gig kit for 160 quid.

Difference between that DDR4 and the fastest in games is 3fps difference:

http://www.legitreviews.com/gskill-...-memory-kit-review-f4-3000c15q-16grr_150055/6

But I do agree 5820K+cheapest ram/mobo and its only £200 more then the 4790k and worth it in the long run.
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5820k would be really nice. I don't understand how people say that 2 gpus with this processor would be a bad idea when there are people using sli and xfire in the mainstream platform (8x8) and are happy with that when here you can have a 16+8 for the gpus + 4 free.
 
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