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AMD teasing new product, is it Radeon or FirePro?

Indeed it will be interesting to see what AMD release on the gpu front. The 200 series have been excellent and well priced. And as said competition is great for us as end users. I for one wouldn't want to see one company dominate the market. Look at cpu's for example, Intel just drip feed performance increases on their mainstream chips as there's nothing to compete with therefore they're not pushing the performance improvements.
 
So all those guys who quoted me are happy with the way AMD are going? I am an nVidia fan for sure but want to see AMD doing well, as whilst they are releasing good products, nVidia do the same and we "the consumers" get the better deal.

And lighten up with the Underboss thing with every opinion I have. Just because of my position, I still have an opinion and yer, I do think AMD are in trouble.
 
They are hardly in trouble seeing as they have the contract to produce the chips for both new consoles. A bit of a price drop is all that is really needed tbh.
 
Yes why not? You're comparing a older gen to a newer gen and the only bonus is less power consumption (over clocking both gives similar perf), which for the last 6 months and during the release of 285 you couldn't give a damn about but is now the most important thing in the world. what makes its even more lol-worthy is that your sig still has a guide on it to overvolt a titan. It makes you harping on about price and power consumption being everything, just make me want to shake my head tbh.

And then to claim AMD are doomed despite selling really well in the very recent past? Its daft, as is trotting out the "I want both to do well" line when you skip around every thread saying one group is doomed, but when the situation is reversed you just retreat to "if you want nvidia features...and I do" line. It has become beyond boring.

Just my opinion naturally ;) because that covers everything
 
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I think everyone's going a bit over the top, with like everything...........
It's a GPU launch that happened just the other day for Christs Sake.

What about when AMD's been first to the die shrink and had months of the fastest single end GPU by quite a margin? Nvidia didn't suddenly implode, same as AMD didn't implode when Nvidia were first to a 5XX and a 7XX.

GPU's aren't created and launched in a day. If AMD bring out anything soon, it was always coming. They weren't coerced into launching it. The only thing that may happen is a earlier launch, or getting the hype train going.
 
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And lighten up with the Underboss thing with every opinion I have. Just because of my position, I still have an opinion and yer, I do think AMD are in trouble.

I have argued in your court before against possibly the biggest AMD fan boy - but your response above was perhaps unnecessary - given the underboss status.

It's the sort of thing I have seen other told off for, so you shoudn't be going there. Have an opinion - just word it more diplomatically.
 
Yes why not? You're comparing a older gen to a newer gen and the only bonus is less power consumption (over clocking both gives similar perf), which for the last 6 months and during the release of 285 you couldn't give a damn about but is now the most important thing in the world. what makes its even more lol-worthy is that your sig still has a guide on it to overvolt a titan. It makes you harping on about price and power consumption being everything, just make me want to shake my head tbh.

And then to claim AMD are doomed despite selling really well in the very recent past? Its daft, as is trotting out the "I want both to do well" line when you skip around every thread saying one group is doomed, but when the situation is reversed you just retreat to "if you want nvidia features...and I do" line. It has become beyond boring.

Just my opinion naturally ;) because that covers everything

How does it have any bearing on this issue if he has a link to a guide to 780's/titans?
700 series is still selling atm and i think you will find many using them for a year or 2 more yet.
I dont see AMD in serious trouble myself and i think we need the odd lopsided performance from one side or the other to give the competition a nudge to come back with something better.
 
Hoping it's a GPU but only because I was about to buy a R9 290 last week, now looking at the 970 as it seems pretty good overall (price/perf/power)

Just feeling like it might be worth going AMD for mantle and longterm benefits

Going to be worth waiting a week I guess just to see what this is but would think red/blue is norm amd/intel
 
They are hardly in trouble seeing as they have the contract to produce the chips for both new consoles. A bit of a price drop is all that is really needed tbh.

The console business was a great deal, but AMD are still in trouble, they barely even make a profit. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2089881/amds-console-business-pays-off-handsomely-and-profitably.html

Their GPU business is the only thing that keeps them competitive, considering they now make pretty poor CPU's vs Intel. The moment they fall behind too much with GPU's, they are sitting ducks. The Nvidia 970 is ridiculous pruce/performance value, on a level of the old 8800 GT, and I hope AMD can counter it at least to some extent.
 
How does it have any bearing on this issue if he has a link to a guide to 780's/titans?
700 series is still selling atm and i think you will find many using them for a year or 2 more yet.

Because it slightly undermines the assertion that lower power consumption is a valid enough reason to buy a card that is a generation ahead but performs equal to the previous gen cards, When last week the official line was "performance, no matter the monetary cost or the power consumption" so here's a overvolt guide.

I'm sure they will sell, just as the 2xx's will. Which makes the amount of side grading and yelling about amd's downfall ever more stupid.

And I agree again, the standard tick tock of release has happened, I was more commentating on Greg's platitudes about both companies.
 
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I think everyone's going a bit over the top, with like everything...........
It's a GPU launch that happened just the other day for Christs Sake.

What about when AMD's been first to the die shrink and had months of the fastest single end GPU by quite a margin? Nvidia didn't suddenly implode, same as AMD didn't implode when Nvidia were first to a 5XX and a 7XX.

GPU's aren't created and launched in a day. If AMD bring out anything soon, it was always coming. They weren't coerced into launching it. The only thing that may happen is a earlier launch, or getting the hype train going.

+1, as much fun as it is yanking a few chains on a new launch, AMD will have something else along at some point, it is not like they are going to shut down overnight, unless they keep over extending themselves with promises they cant actually cash in

I dont know why pundits seem to like doomsaying on the two companies, they are both doing OK and a bit of banter around a new launch never did either any harm
 
Looking through the 970 owners thread I've not seen a single 970 beat my 290 by a decent amount of FPS and most of them actually lose to my 290 despite them being clocked 1.5Ghz or higher.

From a performance point of view these new Nvidia cards are no threat to AMD, the only thing they do have is low power consumption.

Lower power is a nice feature no doubt.
yea buying a 970 or such and have a sidegrade isnt my tea.
28nm isnt cutting it.

still 25sep isnt far off.
 
Because it slightly undermines the assertion that lower power consumption is a valid enough reason to buy a card that is a generation ahead but performs equal to the previous gen cards, When last week the official line was "performance, no matter the monetary cost or the power consumption" so here's a overvolt guide.

I'm sure they will sell, just as the 2xx's will. Which makes the amount of side grading and yelling about amd's downfall ever more stupid.

And I agree again, the standard tick tock of release has happened, I was more commentating on Greg's platitudes about both companies.

This is Overclockers yes some have guides to help others overclock not all of which require more volts. Its a useful guide and his sigs a easy way to find it and imo if someone has a AMD/NVidia/project log/guide in their sig its irrelevant to the discussion which should be argued/discussed on its own merits
Personally i wouldnt reccomend a 970/980 upgrade anyone with a current 700/290 for gaming but thats just my opinion and others think differently or just fancy a change :) We all like different things its what makes the world great
 
That's working out great going by the replys, nice to see an oCuk underboss keeping things calm in here, keep up the good work.:p
Haha to be fair to FF Matt not being around has obviously unbalanced the ying and yang. Usually they could just bicker amongst themselves and everyone else have a convo around them.

Triss, I'm not saying its unlawful or unhelpful, I'm saying the contrast compared to the current arguments being put forward is mind bending. "Here buy an overly expensive hot card and then overvolt it...one week later... Performance doesn't matter, its cheap and has low power consumption", let's ignore the fact there's been no performance increase to speak of and we are comparing two different generations in an attempt to show the end times"


Again, the old cards will still sell, and the new cards are interesting but the arguments being out forward and the attitude of some people is ridiculous.
 
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