TressFX Hair: Cross-platform and v2.0

humbug · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:12

Rroff said:
They've already been mentioned a dozen times or more in other threads, just funny to see AMD still making that claim.

I didn't see them, can you name a few now? i want to have a look.

Final8y · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:15

Rroff said:
I love the quote

Never mind its not accurate.

Maybe someone with a Twit account can pull him up on that for him to clarify.

humbug · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:16

Final8y said:
Indeed, maybe someone with a Twit account can pull him up on that.

Maybe Roff can give them some examples.

Final8y · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:24

humbug said:
Maybe Roff can give them some examples.

I was thinking about Eve online but besides Apex cloth i cant find any in game Eve online hair simulation videos.

Rroff · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:24

Final8y said:
I was thinking about Eve online but besides Apex cloth i cant find any Eve online hair simulation videos.

Jump in the character editor.

I'm not gonna go listing titles that have already been brought up a dozen times in past threads just because humbug wants to play obtuse.

triss · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:26

http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/03/20/video-shows-ccps-incredible-cloth-and-hair-simulation/
Thats 2010 i dont see any earlier examples but i was only skimming

Final8y · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:29

triss said:
http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/03/20/video-shows-ccps-incredible-cloth-and-hair-simulation/
Thats 2010 i dont see any earlier examples but i was only skimming

He said useable in game, that is a demo of the engine.

Rroff · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:30

Final8y said:
He said useable in game, that is a demo of the engine.

You can build a character like that for station quarters, sure the hair simulation quality isn't that of tress fx.

triss · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:31

Final8y said:
He said useable in game, that is a demo of the engine.

And it says its will be in Eve's expac which i think was same year

Final8y · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:38

triss said:
And it says its will be in Eve's expac which i think was same year

Yes i was playing it day in day out at the time.

And out side of the character creator it was not very useable from what i have seen thus far.

Rroff · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:39

Then there is obviously

But yeah not going all over the done to death topic all over again because people have short memories or something :S

Orangey · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:47

Characters have had floppy hair since 8bit. Pick the point you want to start calling it simulation at random.

Final8y · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:48

Rroff said:
Then there is obviously

But yeah not going all over the done to death topic all over again because people have short memories or something :S

Sorry Rroff i was waiting for you to bring up Alice, the hair does not use Physx or Apex, people just amused the hair is, but still impressive non the less.

Orangey · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:50

http://www.giantbomb.com/hair-physics/3015-5381/

Another that springs to mind is Oblivion, possibly Morrowind before it.

Rroff · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:50

Final8y said:
Sorry Rroff i was waiting for you to bring up Alice, the hair does not use Physx or Apex, people just amused the hair is, but still impressive non the less.

Doesn't matter what API or solver its using aslong as its using a physic simulation.

Final8y · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:57

Rroff said:
Doesn't matter what API or solver its using aslong as its using a physic simulation.

I was not disputing that point, just clearing up what it definitely is not using.

basic CPU physics, similar for PC and consoles. Interesting note: physically simulated clothing and hair for Alice are not part of hardware PhysX content, and are not affected by PhysX settings (moreover, it is not even using PhysX engine for simulation).

http://physxinfo.com/news/5883/gpu-physx-in-alice-madness-returns/

Orangey · 24 Sep 2014 at 04:58

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=1072534

Final8y · 24 Sep 2014 at 05:05

LOL Orangey.

Rroff · 24 Sep 2014 at 05:06

Final8y said:
I was not disputing that point, just clearing up what it definitely is not using.

http://physxinfo.com/news/5883/gpu-physx-in-alice-madness-returns/

Most of the game uses PhysX - spicy horse has their own soft body solver but afaik most of the game just basically uses ApeX cloth implementations any way I'm not even sure the hair is actually much more than a wrapped version of ApeX.

Final8y · 24 Sep 2014 at 05:11

Rroff said:
Most of the game uses PhysX - spicy horse has their own soft body solver but afaik most of the game just basically uses ApeX cloth implementations any way I'm not even sure the hair is actually much more than a wrapped version of ApeX.

I know spicy horse is using there own solver and im not going to go on any assumptions about the rest.
I was thinking about Alice before i even thought about Eve online and i wanted to see what others assumed it was using and the out come was what i expected.