I'm struggling to see any massive benefits of your chip over mine running at 4ghz
Certainly not earth shattering by any stretch.
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When will we see a CPU thats double the performance of a 5 year old cpu?
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I'm struggling to see any massive benefits of your chip over mine running at 4ghz
Certainly not earth shattering by any stretch.
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It's depends totally on your needs, i especially wouldn't base my conclusion on a Super PI run.
It's purely subjective and based on what it is your using it for.
No way would i go back to my 920.
I use mine for many things. gaming, programming, Photoshop, compressing/extracting gigs of data etc and your cpu or any thats been made today can hardly beat my 5-6 year old CPU.
really is pathetic from Intel.
Instead of buying a Haswell or whatever is the current rebadged 920, i took the plunge and got a 30inch Dell IPS monitor!
Helps me Much more for all the needs(minus compression/decompressing files) then a little small bump in performance
Problem is there has been no great demand for more performance from CPUs. Most of chip maker's time has been taken up by making them smaller and more power efficient since mobile computing has really taken off. That's why we are always getting CPUs that use less power than their previous counter part and are only slightly faster clock for clock. Once there is more demand for more power from the CPU we will see the performance come. Probably when 4k gaming starts to take off which IMO will be in the next 5 years.
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What sort of things are you using it for Easyrider?
Like it said it all come down to what you use it for, what games and at what clock speed, I'm not defending Intel, i'd agree with you guys, Cpu's haven't progressed as much i think they should have.
But they have progressed, I was happy to pay for the jump in performance from my 920 system to this 4770k system, others aren't which is fine.
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If you look at the market, it has changed over the last 5-10 years.
Server virtualisation - corporates are interested in cost and power efficient blades to run in their new environmentally friendly datacentres. Multiple physical boxes are being consolidated onto single blades with a couple of high-end processors ( instead of >1 per physical server before ). There is a trend towards performance and power efficiency by density rather than outright performance.
Laptops - the consumer laptop market has largely been dented by tablets and smartphones. Firing up your laptop to surf the net, facebook, email is so yesterday. The business laptops are more interested in improved battery life rather than improved performance. Of course, when the next operating system bloatware comes out, then performance may be wanting a little.
Gaming - Although there is clearly a hard core of PC gamers / distributed projects like seti/folding etc, generally I think the PC gaming market is much smaller than consoles. We also have graphics card CPU capability being exploited by API's and other non-traditional elements such as the BOINC projects.
Generally, I think you'll find the processor market is a little like the car market now - pull the speed back, work on perfecting the efficiency, then use that knowledge to increase the speed. That may be through having multiple ultra-low-power cores in a single package, with low clock speeds but a high system speed.
Just my 2p.
BTW - I used to be a "latest and greatest" - from P2, P3, Athlon (then an overclocking card for it ). Now I have a Quad Core P4 something or other, the limiting factor is the 4Gb max ram on the motherboard. But it does what I want it to do, and I got it years ago for the bargain price of £100 including 500Gb HDD lol
Server virtualisation - corporates are interested in cost and power efficient blades to run in their new environmentally friendly datacentres. Multiple physical boxes are being consolidated onto single blades with a couple of high-end processors ( instead of >1 per physical server before ). There is a trend towards performance and power efficiency by density rather than outright performance.
Laptops - the consumer laptop market has largely been dented by tablets and smartphones. Firing up your laptop to surf the net, facebook, email is so yesterday. The business laptops are more interested in improved battery life rather than improved performance. Of course, when the next operating system bloatware comes out, then performance may be wanting a little.
Gaming - Although there is clearly a hard core of PC gamers / distributed projects like seti/folding etc, generally I think the PC gaming market is much smaller than consoles. We also have graphics card CPU capability being exploited by API's and other non-traditional elements such as the BOINC projects.
Generally, I think you'll find the processor market is a little like the car market now - pull the speed back, work on perfecting the efficiency, then use that knowledge to increase the speed. That may be through having multiple ultra-low-power cores in a single package, with low clock speeds but a high system speed.
Just my 2p.
BTW - I used to be a "latest and greatest" - from P2, P3, Athlon (then an overclocking card for it ). Now I have a Quad Core P4 something or other, the limiting factor is the 4Gb max ram on the motherboard. But it does what I want it to do, and I got it years ago for the bargain price of £100 including 500Gb HDD lol
RISC processors are still around. ARM CPUs are RISC based for example (so just about every smartphone on the market). Just about every 8 bit and 16 bit embedded CPU that I know of is also RISC based (if you find one which isn't let me know - I would be quite interested to hear).
The rest of the RISC chips tend to be used in big UNIX server boxes such as IBMs POWER line of CPUs and Sun / Oracles SPARC CPUs.
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Bumping this thread in the hopes that a CPU double the performance of my i7 920 from 10 years ago is finally on the horizon?
Will we finally see a CPU that smashes mine for clock for clock?
Will we finally see a CPU that smashes mine for clock for clock?
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Mate there is always a demand for faster CPU's
if i can encode/decode a 1080p movie in less then 10 seconds, i'd lap up that cpu. instead it takes my 920 half an hour to do so and the cpus out now, maybe 5mins faster...
A 6 or 8 core Haswell-E would render a 1080P movie significantly faster than your 920. This is fact.
The issue most complain about is the trivial difference higher power CPU's make in recent games. The 4790k being faster than the £760 5960xin most games for example.
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if it can make me work on photoshop, lightroom, eclipse and inteliJ double the speed of my 920. ill be it now
Fast I/O is a big part of those workloads, especially compilations. Got a fast SSD or two (RAID 0)?
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I was going to mention an SSD and good memory with tight timings would get you better jumps than depending on processing power alone.
the 2600k cpu's will take some beating esp the used prices
the cons with the 920's were they run hot,lacked true sata3/usb3 and no igpu which is handy should your gpu fail
plus x58 boards suffered badly from coil whine
I liked my 920 chip but there is better cpu's now
the cons with the 920's were they run hot,lacked true sata3/usb3 and no igpu which is handy should your gpu fail
plus x58 boards suffered badly from coil whine
I liked my 920 chip but there is better cpu's now
From a gaming point, I could take one of the 780's from my spec in sig and stick it into my old 930 system at 4.2ghz. Wouldn't notice a difference, multi gpu would be a different matter. The older chip would run a bit cooler too.
Don't bother dude, I made the leap from i5 750 to 4670K and the gaming performance (and general desktop) is negligible. Only reason to upgrade would be to get goodies like SATA3 and M.2
2500k vs 4790K with 60 games tested:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389580
Shows no difference really, benchmarker says its GPU limited think he must be right considering he has a Geforce titan GPU.
Clearly evidence that most game developers are offloading most of the work via the GPUs which is a good thing of course.