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AMD Radeon R9 390X Arrives In 1H 2015 – May Feature “Hydra” Liquid Cooling

Boomstick777 said:
On the OP topic of Liquid Cooling, ASETEK might be devleoping an Nvidia AIO cooled GPU as well..

Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 ‘Vesuvius-Like’ AIO Liquid Cooled Reference Edition from ASETEK Spotted

Read more: http://wccftech.com/gtx-980-water-cooled-aio-bundle-spotted/#ixzz3EeaKZRCD

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is that card for real............if not it's still a great example of what looks truly awfall........if the 390X looks like that AMD have had it......that wont sell as a mainstream card, it isn't ``plug and play``

hang around it's a fake :D the water block is way too large and out of perspective.
 
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Rusty0611 said:
The price is what the market is willing to pay. What may be 'expensive' to somebody is not a large sum of money to other people. You have to bear that in mind when you're factoring in whether somebody considers a purchase a good deal or good value for money. Money is all relative after all. I'm not rich but I live well enough and have worked hard since I left uni and got a couple of decent breaks along the way.

Obviously if I was, say, working in a call centre or something for a bit over minimum wage then £500 for a GPU would probably not be considered a bargain.
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Preferring one brand over another is a different and perfectly valid argument.

You might buy a Bugatti Veyron for $1.000.000 instead of an $850.000 Porsche 918 Spider if you think its better.

If you buy the Veyron simply because its more expensive, then i would argue its not really a valid reason.

GoogalyMoogaly said:
Right, so you're saying it only matters if it's compute performance that affected?
Crippling a card in another way is fine, but compute performance (which is used massively in gaming is it?) is when it becomes a problem? Seems a really narrow argument with parameters defined so tightly that it can only be applied to this one scenario.

Since the Titan is the only one with the added compute performance doesn't it seem more like it's something added to that card rather than removed from all the others?
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Its not "added compute performance" it was there originally, they took it away and told you "if you want it back give me a bucket load of money"
 
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humbug said:
Preferring one brand over another is a different and perfectly valid argument.

You might buy a Bugatti Veyron for $1.000.000 instead of an $850.000 Porsche 918 Spider if you think its better.

If you but the Veyron simply because its more expensive, then i would argue its not really a valid reason.
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Or you just buy what's best for you at the time? I'm confused: everything you've said is just one big tangent to my 'money is relative' point.
 
Rusty0611 said:
The price is what the market is willing to pay. What may be 'expensive' to somebody is not a large sum of money to other people. You have to bear that in mind when you're factoring in whether somebody considers a purchase a good deal or good value for money. Money is all relative after all. I'm not rich but I live well enough and have worked hard since I left uni and got a couple of decent breaks along the way.

Obviously if I was, say, working in a call centre or something for a bit over minimum wage then £500 for a GPU would probably not be considered a bargain.
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Even though I could afford Titan it's just a ridiculous amount for a single gpu. Bang for buck is what I am after which Nvidia unfortunately have never gave me for quite a while.
 
humbug said:
Preferring one brand over another is a different and perfectly valid argument.

You might buy a Bugatti Veyron for $1.000.000 instead of an $850.000 Porsche 918 Spider if you think its better.

If you buy the Veyron simply because its more expensive, then i would argue its not really a valid reason.



Its not "added compute performance" it was there originally, they took it away and told you "if you want it back give me a bucket load of money"
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What was it in before (other than the Titan) that they took it away from?

win8.1 said:
Even though I could afford Titan it's just a ridiculous amount for a single gpu. Bang for buck is what I am after which Nvidia unfortunately have never gave me for quite a while.
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The Vapor-X was considered the best bang-for-buck 290?
 
win8.1 said:
Even though I could afford Titan it's just a ridiculous amount for a single gpu. Bang for buck is what I am after which Nvidia unfortunately have never gave me for quite a while.
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It is now but if you bought on on release and are still using one then I'd argue you've had a pretty good shift out of them. For me it's about the overall package when you're looking at value for money. AMD compete in pure hardware terms but I don't feel that their software package is as good overall as nVidias. AMDs isn't bad or anything but when weighing them up if nVidia are a little bit more than AMD for the same performing card I'm likely to go nVidia.

As it happens the 290 wasn't around when I got my 780 so that was an easy choice at the time :D.

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Rusty0611 said:
Whatever it is I'm not interested - keep the thread on topic or at the very least about graphics cards.
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the best bang for buck is easily the 970, i've never known of a card so cheap for it's performance, unfortunately you cant expect all Nvidia cards to be so cheap.

i wouldn't buy a Titan anyway...........i'd go for the 390x2, because it'll be far more powerful, that is if they dont screw it up
 
Rusty0611 said:
Or you just buy what's best for you at the time? I'm confused: everything you've said is just one big tangent to my 'money is relative' point.
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I agree if its all you can get at the time then what else can you do.

Its the dodged defence of Nvidia when they are bent over and taken from behind by them in this way that i don't agree with.

I keep joking on about Münchhausen marketing, its that surreal to me, different folk different things i guess, i really quite dislike being done like that.
So i don't understand it, or perhaps its a problem for people to admit to being done over, which i can understand, but then, why keep running back to them like a battered wife?

Anyway, its always good to debate it.
 
Wizzfizz said:
February.. All good then. These cards will be old hat by time AMD release owt :)
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Good timing after Xmas, looking forward to seeing what 20nm Radeon with HBM can do. Will enjoy the 980 until then :)

Good to see AMD are using the feature set of Tonga in their upcoming APU's that should really help with the memory limitations.
 
humbug said:
So i don't understand it, or perhaps its a problem for people to admit to being done over, which i can understand, but then, why keep running back to them like a battered wife?

Anyway, its always good to debate it.
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It's fine to make your point and I'm sure others agree with you but it's guff like this which makes you not be taken seriously at times.

Nobody is forcing people to buy a nVidia graphics card. It's a (thankfully) free market where the market states the price it's willing to pay and companies deliver products for the market. If people felt shafted they would not return. People feel like they're getting good value from their purchases so what difference does it make that you wouldn't feel the same in their situation?

It would be a problem in a monopoly but the GPU market isn't a monopoly so there is choice for those who do not wish to pay nVidia prices.

You have to remember that not everybody shares your views on value.
 
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