What of them?
They get a pay freeze in their secondary income (courtesy of the rest of us taxpayers)... so what? Benefits really ought to be reduced across the board.
Tory Government to take from the poor to give to the old?
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What of them?
They get a pay freeze in their secondary income (courtesy of the rest of us taxpayers)... so what? Benefits really ought to be reduced across the board.
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lol you realised that 4% of the total welfare bill goes on the unemployed? i hope you all know that. I hope you understand that itsfair to charge a bedroom tax but not mansion tax.
Benefits should be capped at minimum wage (unless ofc you are disabled and need care).
ditto.
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It always astounds me in these kind of threads that many people see receiving benefits as "the norm" and not receiving even more is seen as a "tax" or even a "reduction".
Its incredible!
Its incredible!
Could say the same about those whining that they're working and not getting a pay rise. Don't like it? Get a better job
Should I go back through your post history and thread making then and report all the xenophobic, racist and homophobic rhetoric?
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That's a great attitude to have.
What do you do when "The Collective" decides they are better off without you?
Move? I earn enough, so will always be safe.
We need to cut spending so it should be every man for himself; cant provide for you and your own? Then sort it out or get no help.
The only time I would help people would be if they have already paid into the system passed a threshold or are disabled or in a "needed" area of education.
Food is potentially a small portion of anyone's living expenses - compared to the cost of housing etc... it is nothing. Anyone can eat cheaply/healthily - whether they choose to or not is another matter.
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I live in a small town that has its own little market and none of the traders have provisions for chip and pin let alone these "benefit cards". All the produce is high quality and generally cheaper than the supermarkets.
If I were on benefits I wouldn't be able to use this card to buy the cheap, decent food instead I would have to go to expensive supermarket and get the cheap "value" food which is all ****, ******* and lips blended together just so the government can pander to the tax payers by taking a stand against what is a single figure percentage of a single figure percentage of people who are on JSA who use benefit for drugs, alcohol and gambling????
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They pay tax too. Tax credits are, the clue's in the name, a credit of tax. That's why they aren't called "benefits".
And "Benefits really ought to be reduced across the board": so you agree that the pension benefit should be reduced, if we are reducing the others?
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If you feel you need too; I have never been or posted anything of that sort. May I suggest you mind what you claim about me, or face any legal consequences.
You take nothing from the system then?
BS...
Out of work benefits != total benefits paid to the unemployed
The vast majority of the unemployed also benefit from housing benefit, child benefit etc.. etc...
The 'bedroom tax' relates to housing benefit and is fair in principle but not implemented well in practice. I don't see why someone should be subsidised for more bedrooms than they require. Someone in a 3 bed council house who's kids have moved out should downsize as it's a local authority owned asset that is needed by others.
The mansion tax has nothing to do with this - that concerns private assets, the sensible way to tax assets is when they are transferred not to levey an annual charge on them - increase stamp duty or inheritance tax if you want to target owners if expensive property.
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You mean you didn't post a Why do so many gay men cycle thread or a Why is the UK under threat from decades of immigration thread?
You're so conservative I bet you only have sex for procreation.
And as for "legal consequences", blow it out your ass.
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Did I say that? But far less than I put in as a matter of fact.
Yup, unfortunately this is the case
There really is no incentive for people who are not working to start working, because let's face it, the majority of them are unlikely to have much in the way of experience/skills, so they aren't exactly going start off in a £20-30k job.
At that point you kind of consider why you'd work your **** off for 40+ hours/week just to have an extra £100/month in your pocket?
There also needs to be a lot more help for people trappedon benefits who actually WANT to work.
I know a couple of girls who would love to go back to work, but they can't afford to pay a childminder/nursery a month in advance with no income, so they're basically stuck unable to do anything to change the situation.
A loan for single parents to pay for their first month's childcare, taken out for e.g. the first 12 months wages, would be ideal for these people, but nothing like that exists (although of course it would be open to some level of abuse, but then everything is!)
Little stalkerish dude. Just because you create a thread, posing a question about immigration, doesn't mean you are a racist. (especially when in fact there are big problems with immigration policies)
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