Tory Government to take from the poor to give to the old?

Dicehunter said:
Why does the english government always go to war on the ordinary people ?

Really baffles me.
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Because we're British and we're only happy when we're miserable, so any party that say's they're going to increase the misery instantly gets our vote :(
 
balky12 said:
In fairness to the rich, they do create jobs, contribute the most to taxation, contribute huge amounts to charity, normally at the cutting edge of technology.

Let's stop bashing them. Aspire to be one.
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The rich people I know through family in the banking sector don't create any jobs and are on huge bonuses, Don't donate anything and if they do it's a tax dodge.

There's a good old saying that is very true, No one ever got rich by being nice.
 
Dicehunter said:
The rich people I know through family in the banking sector don't create any jobs and are on huge bonuses, Don't donate anything and if they do it's a tax dodge.

There's a good old saying that is very true, No one ever got rich by being nice.
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Then become very good at your job, and all these money woes won't affect you :D
 
balky12 said:
In fairness to the rich, they do create jobs, contribute the most to taxation, contribute huge amounts to charity, normally at the cutting edge of technology.

Let's stop bashing them. Aspire to be one.
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I have no issues with the self made ones, it's the rich ones who are rich because of mommies and daddies money who get into positions of power and don't have a clue what they are doing.

That and the corporations who avoid silly amounts of tax through loopholes who threaten to move their business to other countries if the UK closes the loopholes.

Instead of clawing that money back the government wages war on the common people using the media to brainwash people into believing crap that simply isn't true so they get to keep their positions of power.
 
TheLegendOfMart said:
I have no issues with the self made ones, it's the rich ones who are rich because of mommies and daddies money who get into positions of power and don't have a clue what they are doing.

That and the corporations who avoid silly amounts of tax through loopholes who threaten to move their business to other countries if the UK closes the loopholes.

Instead of clawing that money back the government wages war on the common people using the media to brainwash people into believing crap that simply isn't true so they get to keep their positions of power.
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It is tough. If I became stinking rich I would without doubt set my kids up for life... they are my children ha. I would teach them the value of money first (or atleast try)

Duncan Bannatyne got the right idea. His Trust Fund pays his children a multiplier based on their vocation. Banker would get 1x on top of their slary for example and a Nurse 5x.
 
cheesyboy said:
Have you seen the size of Germany's army?

Are they noncompetitive? Un-influential? Powerless?

(I don't subscribe to too much of a reduction in military spending, but your argument is nonsense)
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I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where I said un-influential, powerless and non-competitive.

Would they not be more influential if they had 4 aircraft carriers and all of the necessary vessels / industry to support them? Would such a force not also make them more powerful? As for competitiveness, I wasn't referring to defence spending with that one, though I'm sure it'd still make an impact.

Just as a side question, by 'don't subscribe to too much of a reduction' do you mean that you'd support a reduction in spending, but only a small one?
 
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So lets assume you are a hardworking person, who has previously had a successful career.
Then you are hit with ill health, bad enough to loose your job or not be able to continue with your job, but not bad enough to receive invalidity benefits.

(You have to be half dead to receive disability benefits these days).

It's very arrogant and naïve to suggest that one should just 'become better at your job' or work harder.
 
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EdGey said:
I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where I said un-influential, powerless and non-competitive.

Would they not be more influential if they had 4 aircraft carriers and all of the necessary vessels / industry to support them? Would such a force not also make them more powerful?

Just as a side question, by 'don't subscribe to too much of a reduction' do you mean that you'd support a reduction in spending, but not by much?
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They never had operational carriers during ww2 and were very influential took most of the world to beat them.
 
balky12 said:
Yes you're right, my bad wording.

My point is that it dosn't have to be massive amount before the tax kicks in. at £325k people houses swallow this allowance. I feel it needs to be increased so working class families, who have a moderate house but are not rich, do not get penalised.
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Curious but where do you live that leads you to the figure of £325k as a 'moderate' priced house for 'working class' families?

I very much doubt that is based on any official figure.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
Curious but where do you live that leads you to the figure of £325k as a 'moderate' priced house for 'working class' families?

I very much doubt that is based on any official figure.
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Most of my friends in england are what the english would call working class and live in homes priced around £80K - £120K, If £325K is moderate then this person must live in the "Poorer" end of Mayfair :p
 
matdom said:
They never had operational carriers during ww2 and were very influential took most of the world to beat them.
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... it was an example.

You're right, though, they didn't. Instead the rest of their military was extremely advanced and outmatched anything else in Europe by a country mile.

It could be argued that failure on everyone's part to recognise the influence that brought with it was the reason ww2 broke out when it did.
 
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