Of course warning about historical racial sterotyping is more important than warning about sterotpying around gender, which is still prevelant today... Its a very odd move by amazon.
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Of course warning about historical racial sterotyping is more important than warning about sterotpying around gender, which is still prevelant today... Its a very odd move by amazon.
So it's about the slave conotations...?
Who said she was a slave? She could have volunteered for that position?
Tom & Jerry doesn't depict how things were, it depicts the stereotypes and attitudes towards black people at the time. Those attitudes were undoubtedly racist.
12 Years A Slave doesn't carry those same attitudes.
I watched Cinderella the other day and in that one of the lines is:
"Go off and be gay".
You also have Flintstones with the "gay old time".
Then the classic in Dambusters with the dog called ******.
You disagree?
"Go off and be gay".
You also have Flintstones with the "gay old time".
Then the classic in Dambusters with the dog called ******.
You disagree?
Agreed. Or even a warning about the violence. Having a warning about one and not the others is not dissimilar to saying outright that one aspect is the only one that we disagree with (and effectively endorsing the others).
A simple "We are showing this cartoon as it was recorded and it does not represent or reflect the feelings of our staff (or whatever)" would suffice.
Also, I totally didn't realise she was the maid.
Ughh "should have"
You're missing the point, the way he character is depicted IS of a specific stereotype, behavior, mannerisms, speech patterns, personality, and then colour.
Which is about the slave connotations, but you seem to be in denial over it.
A gay old time means to have a happy time. That was the original meaning of the word. Gay nowadays has essentially been misappropriated by the "gay" community to mean something else.
It can just turn into a complete ****fest.
I'm from East London, is it wrong to portray characters from East London with a cockney accent?
I just think the whole thing is petit. Yes perhaps it could been deemed offensive, but T&J is far from racist.
I think this topic is a little beyond your cognitive ability, as you keep demonstrating that you just don't understand what's actually going on.
Ok dude..
So I was wrong to draw a parallel in Deeps post between the stereotyping of a black woman's accent, and that of a Cockney accent? Stereotyping a black woman's accent is wrong. Stereotyping someone from East London is not wrong. (I don't actually think their is an issue doing either). Remember, I am referring to Deeps post here. Where he specifically mentions accent.
I understand perfectly what is going on... people get butt hurt over everything these days.
I am fully aware of how the word used to be used.
I was just musing on the the old cartoons.
It depends. Are with supposed to laugh with the characters or at the characters? Are we laughing at the character or at people from the east end in general? Are the characters shown to be individuals or just one, big planet of hats? Are the writers punching up or punching down?
Context is important.
A cockney accent isn't a stereotype in and of itself.
You seemingly can't see beyond the most obvious things.
You said who said she was a stereotype of a slave, I explained why, part of which included the speech patterns chosen for the character amongst other things, and you started going on about cockney accents, because it seems you thoughts aren't very one dimensional.
No one is butthurt, you just have little to no idea what you're talking about as you keep demonstrating with your irrelevant "examples".
I thought this at the time, I assumed she was just the owner of the house and Thomas! I'm pretty sure I've never seen anyone else in the house apart from her.
WUT?
Are you implying that 'East Londoners having cockney accents' isn't a stereotype?
I'm jumping out here.
Are you asking what I mean? I'm saying that a cockney access isn't a stereotype, it's an accent. There isn't any context with just an accent. If you add a specific behaviour, phrases and mannerisms, then it would become a stereotype.