UKIP aren't anti-immigration...they are anti-unchecked immigration. We are a country with finite resourses being an island nation, you only have to look at Calais to see the crowds waiting there to get over here to get what they all see as "free money and a house" That's fair enough but I'd rather we dealt with our own homeless first. To get to here some of these people have crossed 10+ countries. Why didn't they stay there in one of the 10? They know we're a soft touch and will put them up in a hotel if there are no homes to put them in.
Will UKIP win its first seat in parliament tonight?
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UKIP are the party of the closet racist those who start sentences with 'I'm not racist but....'
Fortunately this is an obvious protest vote in a meaningless election I doubt UKIP will get the same support come the real thing next year it's always the way with these votes.
And yet Britain has one of the lowest intakes of refugees in Europe. It's almost as low as Italy, nearly half of Sweden numbers, less than a quarter of Germany figures.
Btw, the "crowds" waiting in Calais aren't from EU (or they wouldn't be waiting) and thus do not fall under any current UKIP immigration policy (which is set purely against EU working migrants).
Funny because a vote for UKIP means a vote for labour for the most part.
Playing the racist card so early in your post. You missed out the name calling tut tut
It's not a protest vote. But how would you know if you don't vote for UKIP....or do you!
UKIP's policies wont actually affect immigration at all really, let alone it is pointless endeavor because immigrants are a net-positive contributor that has no effect on unemployment:
http://redearedrabbit.com/2013/05/22/the-immigration-fallacy/
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As has been pointed out time and time again, we're manufacturing more now than ever. It's just the relative share of GDP that's gone down as service industries have grown and manufacturing has become more flexible and specialised. It's unrealistic to expect manufacturing to have maintained it's 25% share of the 1970s up until today. We, like many developed countries, just can't compete in most manufacturing sectors. In the ones we can though, we're doing very very well.
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Not playing any cards or calling any names it's a simple statement that I believe to be true, feel free to disagree.
Unusual byelection results are nearly always protest votes we won't know for sure if this one is until next year. If they return a UKIP winner at the general election then I'll start to believe it wasn't a protest vote but also begin to feel sad about the state of humanity in this country.
Yes, but the percentage is important. I guess we are victims of the rising far east economies and no one has the answer.
There is a large factor involved when looking at a positive contributor and what they give to the country and a negative contributor and what they take. For every "positive" there are many many negatives.
Not every immigrant worker is a dr or a nurse.
Most have low paid jobs paying little tax and take out more than they put in.
I'm pretty sure Green will be to Labour what ukip are to the cons, if I was a kipper that's what I'd say to anyone saying "a vote for ukip is a vote for labour".
Complacent parties, safe seats and professional lobbying destroy democracy, imho.
I'd add a complete lack of understanding of the real causes behind the issues they are voting for is also responsible for that. Due to the fact the average person is a massive idiot, it's expected that our democratic process would be representative of that.
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I worked in a tough inner city school. Saw some immigration pressure but also the influx of native children also caused demand issues. I'm not saying some schools have a much bigger immigration problems to to blame *all* that ails the UK on Europe or immigration is wrong.
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Erm, the people in the camps in Calais aren't from the EU or they'd be allowed in
You have showed your position with the "free money and house" quip. But don't let facts get in the way of your rant.
I am not suggesting it is... but it IS a factor. You cannot just dismiss things because you do not agree with them.
The problem is that the big 3 parties just seem to have a mental block of even discussing a curb on immigration. There is nothing wrong with saying that we need to bring our policy up to date for a modern world, such as they have in australia and new zealand. But say this and you get loonie lefties screaming and flailing about like children. ( not you just in general
)I have showed my position? Really? So because I have a different opinion to you I'm now a racist bigotted anti-immigration thug, going by your thoughts on those whom have differing opinions to you.
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I am not suggesting it is... but it IS a factor. You cannot just dismiss things because you do not agree with them.
The problem is that the big 3 parties just seem to have a mental block of even discussing a curb on immigration. There is nothing wrong with saying that we need to bring our policy up to date for a modern world, such as they have in australia and new zealand. But say this and you get loonie lefties screaming and flailing about like children. ( not you just in general
I haven't dismissed it. Immigration does place additional demand on our services, as does an ageing population.
Australia and New Zealand aren't part of the EU (somewhat obviously) and whilst they have their own immigration policy they don't have the benefits of being part of the EU and the free trade and migration of labour
The migration that mostly happens for EU members is, say Poles coming to the UK or British people going to work in Germany. I can't see why people object to that.
I am not suggesting it is... but it IS a factor. You cannot just dismiss things because you do not agree with them.
The problem is that the big 3 parties just seem to have a mental block of even discussing a curb on immigration. There is nothing wrong with saying that we need to bring our policy up to date for a modern world, such as they have in australia and new zealand. But say this and you get loonie lefties screaming and flailing about like children. ( not you just in general
I feel the reason for this is that they don't want to be seen as racist in anyway, shape or form. Which is exactly what UKIP are seen as due to not having this mental block.
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Nope, never said you were, just saying that everybody coming here gets "free money and a house" shows your position. You can read more into that if you want, and clearly have.
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We are victims of capitalism and uneven development. It's called a spatial fix.