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1440p frustrations on 780

Darr2cool78

Darr2cool78

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Split about 2.2k on my rig this time last year and it is still running strong getting my moneys worth no end but Shadows or Mordor is now the second game to kick its ass due to heavy VRAM requirements on 1440p. The other being Watchdogs.

I run a 780 lightning and horsepower wise it can smash those games at 50/60fps + on full settings (minus AA in watchdogs) but the 3GB of VRAM bottlenecks and I get the stutters and slowdowns.

Not complaining as I know this is part of PC hardware life cycles, things are already less powerful in the market the day after you bought them etc but just wondered if anyone was in the same situation - feeling like they have the power but not the VRAM for 1440p because of a 780 standard/TI, and if so what did they plan to do?

I considered a 980 but I feel like 4GB will still not be enough so then there is the 8GB 290x which is almost going backwards but for more VRAM or should I grin and bare it and wait for new offerings that are more powerful and packing 6-8GB (single gpu). :confused:
 
Watchdogs = Ignore, poster boy for a poorly made game

Mordor = drop textures from ultra to high, should leave you in the 2800-2900mb vram zone at 1440p.

Of similar thinking to you, moving to a 970/980 would only give 1 measly gb extra vram, waiting now for gm200/T2 to arrive before upgrading as 8gb gm204 is starting to look like more unlikely as each day passes
 
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pgi947 said:
Watchdogs = Ignore, poster boy for a poorly made game

Mordor = drop textures from ultra to high, should leave you in the 2800-2900mb vram zone at 1440p.

Of similar thinking to you, moving to a 970/980 would only give 1 measly gb extra vram, waiting now for gm200/T2 to arrive before upgrading as 8gb gm204 is starting to look like more unlikely as each day passes
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Thanks for the reply. I thought that also but then after reading up people where saying that ultra and high only made a difference if the pack was installed. Even on high my VRAM is constantly maxing out, I even tried turning down a few extras that are detailed in the game menu as using X amount of VRAM and it still hit the cap :( made me feel like if I was too see what it was trying to use it was going to need around 4GB. Runs like silk on medium textures everything else full and still looks great but want it maxed and all that ha (minus ultra pack).

Yeh 8GB gm204 doesn't seem likely as I guess NV would feel their titans would loose their edge then. Might hang around for Pirate Islands as AMD are usually more generous with their VRAM but who knows when they will surface.
 
That's what happens when people listen to others who say that 3Gb VRAM is enough, I've been telling people for over 12 months that as the new consoles get settled and they're graphics quality increases it will drastically increase the VRAM requirements on PC.

This is just the start.
 
almighty15 said:
That's what happens when people listen to others who say that 3Gb VRAM is enough, I've been telling people for over 12 months that as the new consoles get settled and they're graphics quality increases it will drastically increase the VRAM requirements on PC.

This is just the start.
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Thing is though most of these games don't need to be pushing 3+GB of VRAM :| for instance I noticed in one game recently where they'd tiled a 256x256 textures multiple times across a 4096x4096 texture then added a tiny amount of difference in one part of the larger texture - they could have done that with just tiling the original texture and using a decal or extra shader stage on the level geometry or just splitting the geometry around the different bit and using 2 different versions of the tiled texture and to top it off the texture was included as a tga - no effort to even use any texture compression.
 
Shadow of mordor is a good looking game, but not crysis 3 level of detail imho and in no way justify the 3,5gb requirement for 1080p ultra textures. I wonder what they have done for it to eat that much memory. I had a brief thought of upgrading my 780 lightning to a 980 but that 4gig framebuffer just isnt enough if this high vram consumption is going to be a standard thing. Those who bought titans must be laughing right now :P
 
Phixsator said:
Those who bought titans must be laughing right now :P
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Yeh I bet, I was one of the haters back when they came out "why the hell would I pay £xxxx for a titan when the wee 780 is just as smart and who needs 6GB thats stupid".

Now I want one but its too late because my 780 lightning can best a stock titan on performance so its again the case of an upgrade/expense just for the sake of VRAM and I don't want to do that :(

Ah well ill make do for now!
 
I was concerned this might happen and looking at The Evil Within also, it's started already...console devs being let loose on 8GB shared RAM/VRAM (esp after using 256/512MB last gen) = PC ports demanding excessive VRAM as the console version has efficiency way down the list of importance.

Only a matter of time until a port asks for 8GB VRAM...but is locked at 30fps and 1920x1080 for that 'cinema' experience of course :D
 
I'm waiting for a very fast 8gb VRAM card to get launched before I move from my 780 ti SLI setup. I don't mind dropping settings on a handful of games in the mean time.
 
James J said:
I'm waiting for a very fast 8gb VRAM card to get launched before I move from my 780 ti SLI setup. I don't mind dropping settings on a handful of games in the mean time.
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+1

Where are the big RAM cards? I'm not gonna drop £800 on 980 SLI only to keep running out of VRAM at 1440p again.
 
I recently went from a 2GB 680 to a 3GB 780 (at 1440p) and have yet to run out of VRAM in any game. But on the 680 it was horrible.

To reduce usage I would skimp on textures and AA especially. And I've advise you do the same with SoM to keep it low.
 
Disco_P said:
I recently went from a 2GB 680 to a 3GB 780 (at 1440p) and have yet to run out of VRAM in any game. But on the 680 it was horrible.

To reduce usage I would skimp on textures and AA especially. And I've advise you do the same with SoM to keep it low.
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I have a 3Gb 780 and have never had a problem with vRam even with everything maxed. That said i don't run AA. Even watchdogs has never given me any problems????
 
Lazy coding increasing requirements, recommend testing a few settings before all doom and gloom on 3gb.

You do realise 780/970 and above is the minority right?
 
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