Apple Special Event. October 16, 2014

I would only upgrade my current iPad Air if the new one had a larger screen, I have an iPhone 6 Plus now so the iPad never leaves the house so I can live with it been a larger device.
 
I am hoping for updated Mac Minis!

Just a nice spec bump and as a bonus a dedicated GPU wouldn't be bad! But I am fairly sure they would just Intel on board GPUs.
 
TONY said:
I would only upgrade my current iPad Air if the new one had a larger screen, I have an iPhone 6 Plus now so the iPad never leaves the house so I can live with it been a larger device.
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Yeah, I've said the same thing in other threads, although many apps for the Plus need to be more iPad-y in layout.
 
Eatchipz said:
I am hoping for updated Mac Minis!

Just a nice spec bump and as a bonus a dedicated GPU wouldn't be bad! But I am fairly sure they would just Intel on board GPUs.
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I'm not expecting a dedicated GPU, just a bump up to current CPU architectures for the mini and the non retina mbp. I notice at least one apple partner is discounting the apple TV now and several are offering discounts on iPads presumably to shift stock but no move on the mini pricing and it either needs to be updated to current gen like the rest of the range or put out of it's misery which would be a shame.
 
This new version sounds like quite a bump indeed. Theres just no need for a high res camera on the back, much rather that on the front for FaceTime/Skype.

I bought my wife the iPad Air just three months ago refurb and it's ridiculously light and fast with zero complaints, but I'm not sure what the browser refresh comments are about... I bet I'll notice now I'm looking for it :(

Doubling the RAM will pump so much life into it so I'm a little gutted about that for sure.
 
I actually took over the old iPad 1 and breathed some new life into it.

I'm going to make a thread discussing how because the difference between jailbreak and regular is outstanding, listing versions of apps that work vs unobtainable in the app store. I have multiple windows now so web browser on the left, Netflix movie playing in top right and the gmail app downloading in bottom right. Crazy!
 
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I actually took over the old iPad 1 and breathed some new life into it.

I'm going to make a thread discussing how because the difference between jailbreak and regular is outstanding, listing versions of apps that work vs unobtainable in the app store. I have multiple windows now so web browser on the left, Netflix movie playing in top right and the gmail app downloading in bottom right. Crazy!
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Would be interested in that,dug mine out recently and, by default, nothing much works / installs.
 
Fallen god said:
The biggest documented complaint is the web browser always having to refresh, given the power of the SoC in the device, high res display, and GPU power 1gb of ram is very limiting. Moreover that the GPU also shares in that 1GB of ram (AFAIK) it starts to become extremely limiting very very quickly. Lets not forget the assets loaded on an iPad are much bigger then an iPad, its like expecting 1080p and 4k to run on the same amount of ram without and issue.

It is worse when you count the stupid number of apple apologist that will continue to defend the 1gb of ram in the iPad Air currently, even thou these issues are clearly documented. Furthermore everything else gets updated frequently, SoC is always bumped no matter what, GPU is always bumped no matter what, why is the Ram left out again and again holding the whole thing back.

This is why its a juicy update, it finally a sensible amount giving the rest of the hardware in the device and will make using it much better, even more so then the A8 and anything else they include.
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my point is it needs 3gb minimum.
 
You're talking a bloated OS vs iOS which is hardly bloated and probably why the low memory (in comparison to other OS running systems which really do need it) works very well with my incredibly casual use.

What are the issues for you high end RAM hungry users?
 
trentlad said:
What are the issues for you high end RAM hungry users?
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It's not just an issue for high end users. You simply can't have more than a couple of tabs open in safari without it having to reload tabs when switching.

RAM is cheap, I have no idea why Apple keep hamstringing their devices in this fashion.

Ipad 3/4/Air - all 1GB of RAM.
Iphone 5/5S/6/6+ - all 1GB of RAM.

So CPU and GPU performance is ramping up generation after generation but RAM is still the same?
 
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I mean... if that's it then I don't know if I want to pay more for a device that uses up more power just to flip tabs. Esepcially for such a minor fix unless you're using dial up or poor 3G.
 
Power usage is minimal for an extra gig of RAM, plenty of phones have 3GB without issues.

The whole thing about "the Apple experience" is meant to be slick and seamless operation and its not, it's clunky and slow.
 
It's probably a mute point if the leaks are true but I'd hold more mavity to the implementation of RAM use rather than numbers.

Look at the Note 2, that thing uses a Quad-core with 2GB of RAM and is hardly a slick and seamless experience.

I do agree though, I'm also surprised they haven't upgraded the RAM in so many revisions. Unfortunately the issue is that newer apps make use of that additional RAM which end up bogging down with older hardware so it's swings and roundabouts.
 
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I mean... if that's it then I don't know if I want to pay more for a device that uses up more power just to flip tabs. Esepcially for such a minor fix unless you're using dial up or poor 3G.
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Firstly no one mentioned paying more, apple never chargers extra for the new SoC, or anything else and this shouldn't be any different.

Also it makes almost no difference to battery life, theres lot of android devices with 2gb/3gb ram version and no changes to battery life. It actual might improve things, the 2 biggest factors outside of the screen for battery life are Radio and SoC. When you reload a tab it first needs to turn the radio on (This typically goes to sleep very fast to save power), then once its awake it will download and the SoC will process everything. Instead if you load directly form ram you avoid all of that.

Again its not just for tabs, the 1GB of ram is a huge bottle neck, when you look at the A7 being as fast as the 2010 MBA and what you could run on it form CPU/GPU side of things then 1GB will start to hurt it more and more. I've worked on a lot of software for FTSE 500 companies and they really need more ram to do some of the things they want.

Its not to dissimilar to building a new PC, getting and i7, 980GTX, 4k display and then sticking 2gb of ram. Everything else on the iPad is stupidly fast but the ram is just meh, for a device that you typically pick up use, put down and use again later.

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Look at the Note 2, that thing uses a Quad-core with 2GB of RAM and is hardly a slick and seamless experience.
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This is cause Samsung has bad software, the S5 is slower then the Moto E with 1gb ram and a low end dual core CPU.
 
I like this lad, he brings actual facts and figures to the table.

See with the information you've laid down it completely stands to reason that additional RAM is absolutely needed.
 
As much as i love my ipad, the constant tab refreshing really ****es me off. I usually have at least 5-6 tabs open at any one time, and not being able to switch between 2-3 of them without waiting for pages to reload is very annoying. Even more so when you're buying something and switch away for a few seconds, only for the page to reload and you have to start again.

2gb of ram is definitely needed.
 
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