Krav Maga

meghatronic said:
To anyone that's done Krav - is this typical?
DrDee?
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I haven't read the end of the thread yet, but there are karate clubs (yes, in Scotland) that train this way.

To the OP - the (arguably) best martial artist in Britain teaches in Edinburgh. Rick Young would teach you muay thai/kick boxing, BJJ, and Filipino stick/knife fighting - IF that was something you were interested in.

As far as I know he is the only BJJ black belt operating in Scotland (there are something like 6 in the UK)
 
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ChrisJSY said:
I'm not really one for scripted events and where other people go with your throw.

I'm sure he could kick my butt 100 timers over with his little finger but still!
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He's very skilled and some of what he does make sense and matches some of the training I've seen and some I've received about close quarters fighting against a weapon.

However he can't seem to resist doing some of the silly stuff too in a couple of demos - for instance using a kick to target directly against a handheld weapon is low-percentage stuff and shouldn't be attempted or taught to most people.

Using two people to choreograph against was good in some places to show the principle. In some it was a bit silly when the demo timing was slightly off.

His gun disarms look good but I'm not qualified to critique them...

Look for the stuff with the red mitts, that is stuff you see in other reality style arts. Good stuff that uses a lot of large limb movements to defend and attack and don't target the throat.
 
zhx said:
That bloke is a bloody weapon in him self. Bit where the bloke in the red t shirt comes at him with a knife. Don't even see what happens and just absolutely nails him
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He slips outside the knife attack and drives forward using his forearm against the neck or head to take the other guy down.
 
DrDee said:
Being scared of being prosecuted is thinking a tad to far ahead of oneself when it comes to self defence (imo) If someone comes at me with a knife or with deadly force and I cant run, I am not going to be thinking "hmm, how can I defuse this situation whilst doing the least harm possible to this guy", im going to return the favour and defend myself useing the most effective method available to me and reduce the risk to myself as much as I can.
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The point at which you choose your art is in my opinion the most important point and the legality of the things you are being taught should be important to you.

The old maxim (to me, don't know how well known it is) is that you should not train what you are not willing to use.

You should be concerned not only with the life threatening situation but the more common non-life threatening situation which you have only trained to over-react to. There are ways of training that include highly effective techniques but do not include dangerous techniques.
 
Sash said:
Anyone do this? I've been thinking of starting and from the few videos I have seen from the Krav Maga Scotland website it looks pretty intense.

From what I have seen its 45 a month for a session a week (so 4x a month) or 55 a month for unlimited sessions, which seems reasonable enough - same price as a gym membership.

Edit: This should be in sports, I was sure I posted it there but obviously not....
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I remember seeing a Kray Maga manual - every instruction set started with disarming/striking, followed by a punch/kick to the balls. Made me chuckle. :)
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
I remember seeing a Kray Maga manual - every instruction set started with disarming/striking, followed by a punch/kick to the balls. Made me chuckle. :)
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For the survival Krav Maga thats pretty much it, kick them in the ovaries and run after that :D
 
I have been to one of these lessons and I liked what I saw but I think if you come up against someone who is good at Martial Arts you would be in a spot of bother.

The instructor asked if I had a Martial Arts background so I told him I did Muay Thai and Boxing so he said see if you can land a shot on one of my pupils. I dummied a jab which he reacted to then landed a low kick to his thigh, I did not bother putting much power in but it caught him completely off guard and had I put some power in he'd more than likely be on the floor.

I was then instructed to limit the attacks to punches and the guy managed to block them all but at times I was close enough to have been able to knee him hard in the ribs or get him in the clinch, obviously I did not as it was a 'play fight'.

I will probably go back as the idea of defending against knife carrying thugs and multiple opponents is something I cannot practice in Muay Thai or Boxing.

But having said that the guy blocked some fast punches so if you are looking for something purely for self defence that would help you out in the majority of situations I'd give it a go, just don't annoy Thai Boxers :)
 
western boxing is one of the best fighting arts for your nucleus of fighting skills,its great for entry and a lot of techniques can be applied from a boxing nucleus....i trained in boxing for over 10 years and Escrima with Krishna Godhania for 4 years;)
Escrima is probably the no1 martial art for knife attack and defence
Remember its "not the song,its the singer"
 
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MG42Maniac said:
I have been to one of these lessons and I liked what I saw but I think if you come up against someone who is good at Martial Arts you would be in a spot of bother.

The instructor asked if I had a Martial Arts background so I told him I did Muay Thai and Boxing so he said see if you can land a shot on one of my pupils. I dummied a jab which he reacted to then landed a low kick to his thigh, I did not bother putting much power in but it caught him completely off guard and had I put some power in he'd more than likely be on the floor.

I was then instructed to limit the attacks to punches and the guy managed to block them all but at times I was close enough to have been able to knee him hard in the ribs or get him in the clinch, obviously I did not as it was a 'play fight'.

I will probably go back as the idea of defending against knife carrying thugs and multiple opponents is something I cannot practice in Muay Thai or Boxing.

But having said that the guy blocked some fast punches so if you are looking for something purely for self defence that would help you out in the majority of situations I'd give it a go, just don't annoy Thai Boxers :)
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I've experienced things like this, most of the time people (including myself) leave themselves wide open to a knee in the balls, a swift kick to the knee or knee to the ribcage. I always love doing it as they say, "that's not aikido". Pah.
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
I remember seeing a Kray Maga manual - every instruction set started with disarming/striking, followed by a punch/kick to the balls. Made me chuckle. :)
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That's pretty much the point of Krav Maga - get out of danger ASAP and get the upper hand by any means possible. A swift disarm and a kick to the balls should achieve that.
 
meghatronic said:
I've experienced things like this, most of the time people (including myself) leave themselves wide open to a knee in the balls, a swift kick to the knee or knee to the ribcage. I always love doing it as they say, "that's not aikido". Pah.
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I used to get shouted at when i did karate as i used throws and locks during competitions lol
 
Well.... during competition you should only use the techniques allowed. In modern WKF rules all throws that pivot above the waist are disallowed so no hip throws or shoulder throws. Grabbing is disallowed in most situations so locks are also out in sport karate.

If you wanna go freestyle sparring (and I don't mean freestyle karate/kickboxing) then HAVE AT IT!!
 
that outlines very well the difference between a martial art and a self defense system

martial arts tend to have rules of what is and is not allowed (especially for competition)

where as Krav is very much a practical system for doing "whatever you need to do" to protect yourself.
 
I though it pretty much outlined the difference between a sport and a martial art/self defence.

My martial art trains kicks, punches, elbows, knees, joint locks, throws, standing grappling, ground grappling, chokes and strangles. In the midst of that there is time to win a few medals at sport karate.

I've done most of the unarmed and a little of the armed stuff shown in the earlier "Is this Krav Maga?" video posted by Meghatronic.

On the other hand perhaps it would help to explain that I don't train at a "traditional" karate club.
 
Holy thread revival Batman.

Ive been going to Krav now for a couple of months, any other ocukers go and if so, where abouts? Im IKMS. Now working towards my first grading in April.
 
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