Of which Sony led, they took the biggest hit, think it spiraled from putting them in the PS3 that the lost money on the most, and to this day it still hasnt paid off.
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Of which Sony led, they took the biggest hit, think it spiraled from putting them in the PS3 that the lost money on the most, and to this day it still hasnt paid off.
I just think the PS4 is a fantastic machine better than what the competition offer but I feel it's being held back considerably due to financial restraints by a company that is loosing money at quite a rate and possibly cannot support the machine at the rate it's selling and the expanding user base.
I think an investor would do wonders for Playstation but I doubt it's something Sony are going to consider until they have to.
If that makes an ounce of sense.
Umm what?
People where talking about Costs of the console I was talking about how they still havnt made money on the Blu-Ray side of things within the players.
You really seem a bit sensative.
There biggest money loss seems to be in TV's right, but thats before everything else would put through the works, right now the PS brand is the only things making Sony money in any real way right now.
If you write that money off against the legacy of the PS3, the Playstation is still very much in the red.
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Sonys divisions are lots of separate companies under one umbrella, with their own cashflow, you need to get your head around that.
There's not a face big enough for the palms you create dude.
Your article has nothing to do with PSN, clearly you have no idea what you are on about.
Honest question for you.
Do you honestly think that they will add no servers during the PS4 lifetime?
Yes or no will do.
But so is Xbox with Microsoft but it does mean that a few billion $ can be sent over to Xbox to improve servers etc.
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Here you go Kitch, I dont think you understand business very well but dont let that stop you having a go.
Sony had to wipe 245 million in projected sales to re0coup what they spent to get Blu-Ray as a leading medium, and long term its never going to pay off as we dont use discs anywhere near as much.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/1/5670786/sony-earnings-adjustment-impairment-charges
Sony had to wipe 245 million in projected sales to re0coup what they spent to get Blu-Ray as a leading medium, and long term its never going to pay off as we dont use discs anywhere near as much.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/1/5670786/sony-earnings-adjustment-impairment-charges
MS has shareholders too, they can't send a few billion anywhere without there being a financially viable endgame.
Whats that got to do with the PS division? If you haven't figured it out yet, that is what we are talking about.
The money loss came in from the PS3 side of things, that sits in the Entertainment ledger as red, a most other massive failures in teh Entertainment division, which mean, that whilst the PS4 is okay as a standalone product, its not even close to wiping the debt amounted from past problems.
And dont change the point you kinda tried to make when you said. About how Sony should be okay as they are part of a consortium, which again I dont think you understand how taht was made up.
And dont change the point you kinda tried to make when you said. About how Sony should be okay as they are part of a consortium, which again I dont think you understand how taht was made up.
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In all fairness PSN subscriptions doubled last month.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/17/ps4-beats-xbox-one-again-in-us-september-sales-destiny-is-biggest-game-of-the-year-4909431/
I guess as ms don't sell nearly as many xbox's, they don't have to expand their servers as fast.
Fair enough I don't really understand businesses and how they operate but know that MS have invested quite a few Billion $ into Xbox that they are not expecting to get back. They was talking about selling of Xbox at one point from what I remember.
MS pretty much own the server market, they have the biggest fields I think whcih is already running Azure, which they are using for more and more games, MS dont really need to worry about that, they seem to want to push teh cloud thing across all its platforms anyways.
There's a few lost on that bet, but in business, provided you haven't gone bust, its all about the now and the future.
To some extent, Blu-ray kept the PS3 relevant in the console market, it allowed it to keep its brand above water (just) in the face of strong aggressive competition, which in turn kept the brand strong and allowed the PS4 to fly out of the gate in the face of floundering opposition.
There's a bigger picture to be looked at.
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Agreed