Britain asked to cough up £1.9 billion to the EU

From Polish emigrant **** you union. Made mess in Poland making mess in UK screw this.
 
Why would the EU countries, which, even without the UK, represent ~20% of the entire world's economy, sign a free trade agreement with the puny, possibly Scotland-less, UK?

This puny island is the 6th largest economy in the world, and on track to overtake France to become the 5th. Why on earth would we be excluded when a whole host of other smaller countries are allowed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_free_trade_agreements
 
I don't get how if we've over performed then we owe a feww. Yet countries like Germany etc. are due a reimbursement for underperforming?
 
Flip side of that is Greece has been a net taker from the EU...always has been and always will be. Thoughts on that?

http://www.investingreece.gov.gr/default.asp?pid=21

As you can see, UK companies invested heavily in Greece until 2007 and they're still one of the main sources of investments. Those investments produce profit and a lot of that profit is repatriated (it goes back to the UK). Now try to find another non-EU country with a very different culture, language and religion in which UK companies can invest without much hassle, paperwork, visas for employees etc etc (you won't find it).

Greece may be on the receiving end of the EU budget but the EU budget is a very small franction of the EU economy, which is where the UK and the other rich countries get their benefits.
 
I don't get how if we've over performed then we owe a feww. Yet countries like Germany etc. are due a reimbursement for underperforming?
It's like income tax for the self employed: they make payments on account of their current year's liability based on last years' figures. If they tank, then they get a lot of that cash back (they would have overpaid tax), if they have a good year, there will be a balance to pay (as they would have underpaid tax)

We're having to pay more because the original amounts paid (paid "on account") were based on a certain level of performance. We exceeded that performance when it came to the final calculation, so owe more "tax". Germany underperformed compared with their payment on account.
 
I don't get how if we've over performed then we owe a feww. Yet countries like Germany etc. are due a reimbursement for underperforming?

It is like tax: if you earn more money you pay more tax.
When you pay tax you pay it at a rate that is expected that you will come out about right by the end of the year and get a small rebate, but if somewhere a long the line you suddenly got a big bonus or pay rise but didn't adjust your tax rate accordingly then you will end up owing tax at the end of the year.


The other important thing to note this isn't about recent improvements to the UK economy, this is about changing the way gross income is measured and then retroactively recalculating the charges going back to 1995. Something Britain agreed to do and had the ability to negotiate at the time.
 
I think today I've crossed the line and I would vote out in the referendum. EU are grabbing everything and blocking everything. Completely self interested. No long term sustainable strategies.
 
Hang on - if the formulas used to calculate this are well known and the treasury already knew full well how our own economy was doing in relation to other economies, how could they not have anticipated this? Do they not have even the most basic insight into their international agreements and the associated costs?
 
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