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i7-4790K or wait?

InnocentSam

InnocentSam

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Hello all!

So I recently retired my faithful AMD 6870 GPU to a GTX 970, and it seems like my AMD 4100 @ 4.2GHz is bottlenecking it hard because I'm getting wildly lower FPS than other people's benchmarks.

So I was considering biting the bullet and jumping ship to Intel, and I thought "go big or go home", so apparently the 4790K is the way to go.

However, to upgrade, I'll have to change my cooler + my motherboard, as well as (obviously) the CPU itself, bringing the cost up to about £500~ (for a H100i and Asus Maximus VII Hero).

So my question here is, because I don't keep up with Intel news, are there any plans for a new architecture that will bring new and better motherboards/CPUs for the same price? I don't want to "upgrade" then have them out a better architecture immediately after.

Cheers!
-Sam

P.S. Additionally, anyone know if the H100i fits an Arianet Vaporise V9? I've done some measuring myself and it seems a bit iffy. Officially they say it should fit liquid coolers but it's such a cheap case that they may be lying there...
 
If you don't plan on overclocking the 4790k - the stock hsf does a very good job at keeping the cpu cool. I recently built a non overclocked system for a friend, 4790k didn't go above 72dc at stock even in the heaviest gaming sessions. I did replace the supplied thermal gunk with some nice mx2 though.

The case was well ventilated, 4x140mm silent fans, but shows a h100 is not required unless you want to overclock or unless you just want it for aesthetics etc.
 
Dave2150 said:
If you don't plan on overclocking the 4790k - the stock hsf does a very good job at keeping the cpu cool. I recently built a non overclocked system for a friend, 4790k didn't go above 72dc at stock even in the heaviest gaming sessions. I did replace the supplied thermal gunk with some nice mx2 though.

The case was well ventilated, 4x140mm silent fans, but shows a h100 is not required unless you want to overclock or unless you just want it for aesthetics etc.
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Cheers for the advice. I probably would end up OC'ing it though, but if it works fine with stock I might save myself £78~ to start with and upgrade the cooling later.

kefan77 said:
Broadwell K will release in Q2 2015.
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Doing some digging, these will run on a 14nm architecture but maintain quad-core (probably 8 threads) @ 65+ TDP. Probably a pretty decent performance increase, with a -8 nm improvement. But 6 months is a long time... I'll have to think about that.

Cheers for the help guys!
 
Fleshwerk said:
6 months is a long time, go z97 and get the 4790k!!
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+1 I wouldn't stick with a CPU I was unhappy with for 6-12 months just to get something that will likely only be 10-20% faster than what's out just now. It'll be a long time before a 4970k is a bottleneck for any games.
 
Another option to consider,

If you have enough funds for 4790K, it's worth spending an extra few quid and getting a 5820K, you get 50% more cores / threads than the 4790K for an extra £20. You won't need to delid it either. DDR4 has now dropped well under £200 for 16GB fast ram, similarly priced to the same speed as the higher speed DDR3 16GB kits. X99 mobo's can be found for £150+.

Would highly recommend X99 + 5820K, I've run 4770K and 4790K, 5820K + X99 is the way forward.

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stulid said:
I think for gaming the 8 threads and core speed advantage of a 4790K will perform a touch better.

Also if you get a Z97 Gigabyte black edition board you can upgrade within 3years for free or whatever the difference is for the new board you choose - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18631511
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+1

as well as RAM speed has insignificant effect in gaming. For Z97 + i7 4790K you will have a lot of (cheap) options for RAM.
 
silvagti said:
+1 I wouldn't stick with a CPU I was unhappy with for 6-12 months just to get something that will likely only be 10-20% faster than what's out just now. It'll be a long time before a 4970k is a bottleneck for any games.
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I would be willing to bet that Broadwell will not be even 10-20% faster... Probably a die shrink and updated GPU, lower power etc. with 5% better IPC.

The one after that (skylake) might be more of an improvement but its probably a year away until its available and going from recent intel generations they have just been adding features etc. with minor performance improvements....
 
I'd just go with it because unless it's that month and it's huge you are always gonna be oh what if I wait for another few months
 
The 4790k is a beast of a CPU if your only using 1 graphics 4Ghz / 4.4ghz stock speeds, or you could go for X99 which will possibly have better processors than "skylake" mainstream. 6 cores etc.
 
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NirK said:
The 4790k is a beast of a CPU if your only using 1 graphics 4Ghz / 4.4ghz stock speeds, or you could go for X99 which will possibly have better processors than "skylake" mainstream. 6 cores etc.
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It will run 2-way or even 3-way SLI/Xfire just fine. It can also be overclocked when needed.
 
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