Russia Today - now in the UK, for the UK. Really.

oulton said:
Shame all is quiet regarding the investigation of the Airliner shot down over Ukraine isn't it?
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It's so easy to make things fit whatever conspiracy propaganda drum you are beating, isn't it?

In October 2009 it was all quiet regarding AF447 as well, whats your point?
 
randal said:
Pick me a topic and I'll try and find you an example of subtlty, alternatively please show me some brazenness on the scale of RT. ;)

For reference check the summary page on rt.com/uk , which is a great collection of negative UK news. Certainly in the top most section anyway.
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The bbc coverage of the Sochi olympics was appalling at best and slanderous at worst. So much snubbery and cheap shots at what was a genuinely fantastic games.

The Russians on the other hand were very magnanimous about the London Olympics.

And for weeks before the olympics the bbc and other uk media outlets were wheeling out figures like stephen fry to talk about how bad homosexuality is treated in Russia. No mention of the USA and its 11 or 12 states which have even less liberal attitudes towards gays.

And then Ukraine.

If you can't see through the propaganda that the bbc and most msm is peddling than fair enough, I don't blame you, just that I feel you are missing the spin.

There is a British sense of snobbishness in most bbc reporting of anything to do with Russia. The bbc acts as if Britain is still a great prosperous nation with a right to rule over the world. Those days are well gone but the bbc is still towing that line.
 
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oulton, Russia is an underdeveloped country ruled by a former KGB member who uses corruption, extremist nationalism, intimination and assassination to hold power. Britain, on the other hand, is a bastion of freedom and democracy only surpassed by a few, small size, Nordic nations. If Britain is snobbish, it's justified to be, it's better than Russia in every way.

What states in the US have homosexuality laws similar to those of Russia?
 
Zethor said:
oulton, Russia is an underdeveloped country ruled by a former KGB member who uses corruption, extremist nationalism, intimination and assassination to hold power. Britain, on the other hand, is a bastion of freedom and democracy only surpassed by a few, small size, Nordic nations. If Britain is snobbish, it's justified to be, it's better than Russia in every way.

What states in the US have homosexuality laws similar to that of Russia?
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What a load of rubbish Zethor, nothing unusual from you.

Its nice to see your prejudices on full display, I doubt you have even left the UK never mind been to Russia.

Having traveled extensively around the world and lived in many different countries I am pretty qualified to say that you are talking BS.
 
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oulton said:
What a load of rubbish Zethor, nothing unusual from you.

Its nice to see your prejudices on full display, I doubt you have even left the UK never mind been to Russia.

Having traveled extensively around the world I am pretty qualified to say that you are talking BS.
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I don't know where you've travelled but even so, it's just anectodal evidence. Pick anything from healthcare to freedom of press, GDP per capita to declared happiness, Britain leads by a huge margin, you can't even compare these two countries..
 
Zethor said:
I don't know where you've travelled but even so, it's just anectodal evidence. Pick anything from healthcare to freedom of press, GDP per capita to declared happiness, Britain leads by a huge margin, you can't even compare these two countries..
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Yawn!

I was travelling round south america with a backpack at 19 when you were still on yo mammas titty!
 
oulton said:
I like RT, the BBC is far more dishonest in its reporting.
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This, the absolute bias and basic lying propaganda when Georgia attacked the Russian enclave but the bbc was strident in its condemnation of a Russian invasion of Georgia was both eye opening and sickening.
 
oulton said:
The license fee is only otpional if you can prove you dont have a tv in the house and never watch the bbc.
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Both of these are factually incorrect as you can both own a TV and watch BBC programming without a TV License. What you can't do however, is watch live broadcasts.
 
oulton said:
The license fee is only otpional if you can prove you dont have a tv in the house and never watch the bbc.

It is a stealth tax.

Most major broadcasting corporations in the world are government funded.

as for the propoganda, its so easy!

Russian Sub Hunt - no evidence, no boat found plain propoganda

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29727311

Ukraine Airline shot down by 'pro Russian rebels' - no evidence, in fact evidence of a cover up by the Ukranian aurhtorities, but goes unreported

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28354856

I could honestly go on all day with examples.

The BBC is just a mouthpiece for gov/ big corp / american interests.
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I'm no fan of the BBC, but your examples are pathentic.
 
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oulton said:
The license fee is only otpional if you can prove you dont have a tv in the house and never watch the bbc.

It is a stealth tax.

Most major broadcasting corporations in the world are government funded.

as for the propoganda, its so easy!

Russian Sub Hunt - no evidence, no boat found plain propoganda

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29727311

Ukraine Airline shot down by 'pro Russian rebels' - no evidence, in fact evidence of a cover up by the Ukranian aurhtorities, but goes unreported

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28354856

I could honestly go on all day with examples.

The BBC is just a mouthpiece for gov/ big corp / american interests.
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And RT is exactly the same only even more blatant, so what point are you making?
 
oulton said:
Aha! :D
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Just remember though, it doesn't mean that it is at the mercy of the government even though it is a tax, see these two points...

This reclassification means that the BBC will move from the public non-financial corporations sub-sector to the central government sector, effectively moving from one part of the public sector to another.

They have no implications for the independence of these broadcasters.
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I sort of despair when people compare the BBC to RT in terms of independence from the government.

The BBC has a very specific (and publicly available) charter that sets out what it can do, and one of those things is that it has editorial independence in it's day to day running from the government, and has frequently annoyed the government in power.
RT is funded by, and editorially controlled directly from the Kremlin, with no independence in how it reports issues.

For example the BBC hasn't exactly been friendly to the government about the Iraq War, and frequently questions (and shows opposition views) to the governments policies.
RT...Everything is wonderful, the great leader will protect us, and even when parts of the Russian government admitted some of it's troops were "on holiday" in the Ukraine was busy following the previous Kremlin line about Russiam and Russians having nothing to do with what was happening in the Ukraine.
 
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