UK an offended nation

Craterloads said:
If your friend knew he was Muslim, why not offer him a cheese sandwich or any non bacon one?
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Might have been offensive to not offer him one...I don't see any reason he couldn't have followed it up with "would you like something else?" Though.

Brutal biff said:
reminds me a couple were sent down for a year for putting a piece of bacon on a door handle of a mosque
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That's not really the same thing and I think you know that :D.
 
Craterloads said:
If your friend knew he was Muslim, why not offer him a cheese sandwich or any non bacon one?
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presumably he was going to one of those all day breakfast/working mans cafe type places.... they sometimes do bacon sarnies too since they have bacon and bread to hand... they don't necessarily offer other varieties of sandwich

frankly it is hardly offensive to both acknowledge that it might not be suitable but also offer the same so they're not feeling left out
 
If it was a sandwich shop that sold all varieties of sandwich then yes it is a bit "off" not to offer to get him something else. If the place he was going to only did bacon sandwiches then fair enough.
 
I remember once when I was working in Mike O'Brien's office. He was Minister for the Middle East and was meeting with the Muslim council of Britain.

I was sitting in when the waiters bought in a platter of sandwiches. He turned round with a grin and said, "Don't worry, there's no ham", followed by a laugh.

I could have died! They took it in good humour though.
 
Jono8 said:
I think I have seen only one car driver run a red light in all my time driving. I have seen at least 10 or more cyclists ignore a red light...
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You sure?

I always see cars running red lights, I go through a light as it's turning amber and I know there is not enough time to for the car to get by, and surprise surprise it's right behind me, it's just ran a red light!

Cyclists do run red lights more, but there is a hell of a lot of instances where cars run it, quite often do I see drivers set off from a red light.
 
The worse ones are the one's who put their foot down to get through the red light. That's just crying out for an accident and criminally reckless.
 
adolf hamster said:
Sure horses should have it too, because neither cyclists nor horses should be on the pavement, which is why pedestrians dont need it because they're on footpaths
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Pedestrians run on the road quite a lot. You might have noticed. Presumably they should have insurance and pay taxderplol?
 
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This offends me. Now, I know that Justin has other people in his life and I've already explained to him, via his lawyers due to the restraining order, that I'm cool with that. I get it and I probably won't camp outside his house anymore or send him gifts. Probably.

However, this witch Biel comes in and she's all like "look at me with my JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE, ooh, great big shiny wedding ring!" and I don't think that's okay. I am NOT okay with this. This is ... this is not how the story is supposed to go.

Maybe I'm pretty too. Did she ever think about that, huh? No, I bet she did NOT think about that, about how I feel in this love triangle. I'm caught, caught in a trap, and that trap is Biel.

Now don't get me wrong. I don't think the J-dog is blameless in this. He plays us off against each other, like when I had that dream that this happened and he called me and I was at a bar but yes, we could meet up - what? no, I'm on my own - yes, I'd love to! - his place? Sure! - so that just tells me that there's something there. Something meaningful. Something worth fighting for.

The Biel offends me.

I could be as pretty as her.
 
Craterloads said:
Just seems like common sense.

Who says I'm uppidy?
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The fact that you immediately said that he should have made special allowances for him and treat him differently - offering alternatives.

No.

Default action is treat everyone the same and equal. If something is not compatible with your lifestyle or beliefs, simply state it. Grown men don't need someone else to rush to their defence.

It just so happens, as guessed, that there was no other alternative. Besides, offering to get the bacon sandwiches in is a bit of a tradition.

As an aside, I work in a fairly small 'team', there were 5 of us but we recently had a junior engineer join us who is muslim. We'd already organised our Christmas night out for food and the others drinks (I don't drink but don't throw a hissy fit when others do).
I asked the new guy to come along and he immediately (without knowing where we were going) said yes - he wanted to get to know us all better etc. I kinda advised against that since the rest would probably be drunken ***** soon enough but hey ho, kid made his own choice :p
Anyways - I must admit to a bit of racial profiling, guy is from Birmingham but of Pakistani decent (1st gen Brit) and I correctly guessed he is a muslim.
I decided to call ahead to the restaurant we had booked to check if their meat was Halal (the chicken was, beef and other meats not), if they weren't I was going to shift venues - didn't mention it to him beforehand as I hadn't seen him.
What impressed me though was he was willing to go for a meal and to eat the vegetarian options and be around a fair quantity of alcohol and didn't bat an eyelid. He didn't ask for any special treatment. Obviously we were willing to accommodate some. Point is why can't more people be like this?

Straight away you said my friend should have offered something different.

Offering him the same caused no harm - and as I said he was thankful for it for being seen as an equal.
 
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