Yeah it would to me, but people are more often stupid than dishonest, especially when your job's potentially at risk.
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Yeah it would to me, but people are more often stupid than dishonest, especially when your job's potentially at risk.
he rang employee relations and asked "can i get a discount on gift cards"
then bought gift cards and then used them himself applying the discount a second time.
He didn't ask them that did he?
It is actually a full 40% discount (assuming the gift card covered the purchase in full) as the second 20% discount would have been at full price.
He said he bought 10 gift cards in the OP ranging from £20-£70, even assuming a high average of £50, he still paid £400 for £500 worth of gift cards, the company probably hardly lost anything even with a 36% discount. Again though, this should be addressed by the company to stop the issue arising in the first place, why allow staff discount when paying with gift card? Why allow staff to purchase gift cards with their discount if it causes problems?
Then he was bad at his job as part of designing any system is implementing a level of security
OP is going to get the sack for gross misconduct, absolutely no doubt about it - if i was him i'd just walk and look for another job, no point even sitting through a ****** exit interview, just don't come back, all the last meeting will do is message the managers ego for catching you out.
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The way I read it, he rang to see if he could get a discounted gift card. They've agreed, they never agreed to then using that gift card...then apply another discount on the item they were purchasing.
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Problem is, you are not OP's boss and you have absolutely no idea what info regarding to this situation is in the OP's contract or other formal training that has a paper trail.
I'd be amazed if the OP is the first member of staff to do this, the company should need to explain why they have not closed the loophole if they do not approve of staff buying gift cards and then buying products with the cards, both with discounts, if there is nothing with a paper trail disallowing it.
And as pointed out by others, has the OP been given taken down the route of disciplinary without following employment law procedure?
Formal letter ahead of meeting stating company's reason for wanting a formal meeting?
OP given opportunity to prepare for meeting?
OP been given opportunity to take someone with them into meeting?
etc.
because it never happened before and no one foresaw it happening.
Honest people making rules always leave loop holes because they arnt looking for the con.
Hah, even worse then. No excuse here, it's just pure theft / taking advantage.
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+1 for resignation. Lot easier to find something else if you've resigned rather than being chucked out for gross misconduct.
Common sense dictates if you buy a gift card with a 20% staff discount, you then can't use said card yourself and gain another 20% staff discount!!
Resign ASAP before they get a chance to sack you, you're never going to be able to explain this away to a new employer, at best see you as thick at worse a thief.
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Resign ASAP before they get a chance to sack you, you're never going to be able to explain this away to a new employer, at best see you as thick at worse a thief.
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You don't run a business do you?
You can terminate a contract immediately for gross misconduct. Thieving comes under this far too easily. And it's so easily proven in OPs case.
Checkout something like summary dismissals and stop spouting up things you don't really understand.
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Deliberate or stupidity I think, following correct legal procedure, double dipping from the companies staff discount probably warrants what I said.
Clearly I am not the OP's boss and clearly I don't know all the situation but thank's for point that out.
Not necessarily correct. I'm allowed to use staff discount for family and can have a second card living in the same house as me.
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Again, you do not know what is stipulated in writing that the OP has a copy of, regarding gift cards.
Employers have to follow employment law, if they don't, the plaintive (employee) can go to an employment tribunal. If successful, the plaintive can get their job back; get their job back and financial compensation; get financial compensation.
No point, just walk, can't use that place for your CV and they'll never give you a positive reference.
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i can foresee an unfair dismissal payout in the future 
. The fact this has happened to the company by multiple employees in the past and they have failed to plug the loop hole shows that it is allowed especially if the system allows it and there is no rule against it in the employee hand book..
Loop holes may immoral at times but illegal no.....
if the company don’t want this to happen they should stop it via their systems really wouldn’t be hard. ( no staff discount with gift cards..... end off). the fact they allow this to happen with past instances is negligence on their part.
straight dismissal is an easy unfair dismissal pay out, they should have informed you of your error first, then if you continued dismissal would be fair. I really wouldn’t worry about this, you should charge an IT fault finding fee for pointing this out lol
companies arent allowed to give a negative reference nowadays anyway (legal reasons), the worst they can do is give a plain (ok) reference, so i wouldnt worry about that.
. The fact this has happened to the company by multiple employees in the past and they have failed to plug the loop hole shows that it is allowed especially if the system allows it and there is no rule against it in the employee hand book.. Loop holes may immoral at times but illegal no.....
if the company don’t want this to happen they should stop it via their systems really wouldn’t be hard. ( no staff discount with gift cards..... end off). the fact they allow this to happen with past instances is negligence on their part.
straight dismissal is an easy unfair dismissal pay out, they should have informed you of your error first, then if you continued dismissal would be fair. I really wouldn’t worry about this, you should charge an IT fault finding fee for pointing this out lol
companies arent allowed to give a negative reference nowadays anyway (legal reasons), the worst they can do is give a plain (ok) reference, so i wouldnt worry about that.
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