Oh my, I wouldn't worry about him. You've been more that reasonable and like you say not having to deal with him anymore is an added bonus.
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Oh my, I wouldn't worry about him. You've been more that reasonable and like you say not having to deal with him anymore is an added bonus.
Haaaaah.
Hopefully you get the speakers back as well and they work
I mean he said he was going to return them once the insurance say they don't need to inspect them for damages
If they work I will sell them on ebay and donate the money to charity.
At least that will make me feel better about the whole thing.
You got the money... I seriously doubt you'll be getting the speakers as well! Not with the way you've described this guy.
I'm interested in how he told you he would never speak to you again...sounds amusing.
It really is.
To cut it short:
He called my line manager (who used to be his line manager a year or so ago) in to a meeting room and asked him to be a witness for the money exchange.
He said that he no longer wishes to speak to me or have to deal with me with respect to work. - (which as a side point as there is little to no interaction between us with respect to work as he took a demotion from our team to work in administration. Since he left our team we have improved our work structure and we have all received rather large pay rises and myself a promotion to a management/Team leader position. To which he has always been bitter about.)
Its a good job I am VERY good friends with my line manager, so he thought the whole thing was quite laughable.
I said to the guy that I think its quite amusing that he cant keep a personal matter separate from work. I went on to further explain that I can hold a professional relationship with anyone where required keeping all personal matters separate and its a shame that he cant.
He looked a little flabbergasted and again looked like he might tear up.
I said I don't wish to drag other people in to the matter, however its done and dusted now and I thanked him for doing the right thing and giving me my money.
I walked out.
Happy days.
My job would have never been at risk.
Its a personal matter, and I kept it personal the whole time. It was only his decision to bring other members of staff in as a witness to the money transaction (I am guessing because he thought I was going to scam him?)
I am in a good position at the company I work for so there is no issues in upper management giving me Greif over this as they know I keep my personal and work life separate.
Its glad to see the general consensus here is sharing my view point though. I honest felt like maybe I was not being reasonable to the guy.
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Wow - I thought he was a complete muppet before getting to this bit, but the level of stupidity and pettiness displayed here is mind-boggling. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Glad you got it all sorted at any rate.
Sounds like one of those "people" who just enjoy causing grief to others.
I can't understand why he honestly thought he could hold onto them for that long without payment. Sure a few weeks was pushing it, but if he had no intention of buying them at that point then he should have just given them back and wasted no more of either of your time.
It can't also be doing him any favours, as if one of your colleagues is in the same situation in a few years time, i'm sure you'd end up warning them of his behaviour.
I can't understand why he honestly thought he could hold onto them for that long without payment. Sure a few weeks was pushing it, but if he had no intention of buying them at that point then he should have just given them back and wasted no more of either of your time.
It can't also be doing him any favours, as if one of your colleagues is in the same situation in a few years time, i'm sure you'd end up warning them of his behaviour.
My take:
1. He had no intention of paying you on time. You were a free meal and he was avoiding the issue all along. You were, to put it bluntly, put on the bottom of his list of priorities. Not such an immediate issue as you're a 'mate'.
2. They weren't damaged in the car-crash. He was just trying to find an excuse.
3. Maybe he didn't have the £150 or didn't want to sacrifice his drinking money. Meaning he put you off each month.
4. He seems to have problems with money. Either he's got extreme remorse/anxiety about parting with money, he's just greedy, or he's bad with money, in debt and doesn't want to admit it.
1. He had no intention of paying you on time. You were a free meal and he was avoiding the issue all along. You were, to put it bluntly, put on the bottom of his list of priorities. Not such an immediate issue as you're a 'mate'.
2. They weren't damaged in the car-crash. He was just trying to find an excuse.
3. Maybe he didn't have the £150 or didn't want to sacrifice his drinking money. Meaning he put you off each month.
4. He seems to have problems with money. Either he's got extreme remorse/anxiety about parting with money, he's just greedy, or he's bad with money, in debt and doesn't want to admit it.
Luckily for you that you are in a good position at work. I can imagine many managers seeing you both as "troublemakers" for making a personal issue into a "work" issue, regardless of who actually instigated it.
Yea pretty lucky but I worked hard and built relationships up with people here so it would never come across that way. Everyone in the company knows he is a bit of a drip..
That's just it, you didn't keep your work and personal life separate. This guy was in the wrong but he has brought you down to his level. In the eyes of management, if this had escalated, it would be seen as petty and would have affected both of your reputations but more so his. It's not a position you want to be in and you are never going to come out of it positively.
You mentioned he copied another employee in to the email, do you not see that this did infact have a negative impact on you professionally?
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pain in the arsbum that.
at least you got money in the end.
got ripped off by a 'friend' years ago, similar sort of thing. gave me like £20 toward the sale, never got the rest after asking continually.
some people are just stupid
at least you got money in the end.
got ripped off by a 'friend' years ago, similar sort of thing. gave me like £20 toward the sale, never got the rest after asking continually.
some people are just stupid
I don't get it. It just doesn't make sense.
Under what reasoning is he upset about it all and so unwilling to part with the cash?
And under what reasoning is he overly upset with you? What does he think is wrong in your conduct?
Under what reasoning is he upset about it all and so unwilling to part with the cash?
And under what reasoning is he overly upset with you? What does he think is wrong in your conduct?
Do you know the management at my company?
didn't think so.
Its a good job I do though. Most of them have already had a laugh about it at his expense. Its clear that news travels fast in this place ...
No negative impact, well for me anyway.
He decided to try make this matter work related, and it has backfired on him.
Either way its settled now. Please to see the back of the situation.
Ill be honest I am not quite sure? This is why I am totally baffled. I was (if anything) too forgiving throughout the whole situation, and this was my downfall.
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