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FUD: 20nm GPUs are not coming

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http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/36284-20nm-node-broken-for-gpus

If you didn't believe me, Alatar and a few others, perhaps now you will.

both companies spent a lot of time looking into the new 20nm manufacturing process and they have decided that it is simply not viable for GPUs.

Yields are not where they are supposed to be and from a business perspective it doesn’t make sense to design and produce chips that would end up with very low yields. At this point we do not expect to see any high-end chips in 20nm, as there are obvious manufacturing obstacles
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To put things in perspective, in a single 20nm 300mm wafer you can place more than 700 A8 dies, while Nvidia can get about 140 Maxwell 204 chips from a 28nm High K 300 mm wafer and in 20nm manufacturing it would be able to get more, as the individual die would be significantly smaller.

However, these 150-250W chips are completely different than low-power SoCs with TDPs of less than 5W. They are worlds apart and one can assume that with the high performance and clock of discrete GPUs, coupled with their sheer size, result in higher leakage and other issues. Making a chip 4.5 times bigger means that there is much more room for potential issues, leakage and yield problems.
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Well there you go. A website says it.
 
This is coming from the same website that told us 30fps is all we need for gaming (yes, I know I'm being facetious). :rolleyes:
 
benjii said:
This is coming from the same website that told us 30fps is all we need for gaming (yes, I know I'm being facetious). :rolleyes:
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People need to see it on a website for some reason. They don't even care if it's clearly just a blog spewing fabrications, so long as it's on a site then gentlemen start your engines.
 
Lots of mights and coulds but not fussed either way, I have a feeling I will be set with these 3 Titans for gaming for some time :cool:
 
Wasn't it already confirmed Nvidia weren't interested in 20nm and were aiming for 16nm in 2016 and AMD were looking at 20nm and we assumed they would use it but we all know how AMD like to ride the PR bullstar it out fully train.
 
kazuya1337 said:
Wasn't it already confirmed Nvidia weren't interested in 20nm and were aiming for 16nm in 2016 and AMD were looking at 20nm and we assumed they would use it but we all know how AMD like to ride the PR bullsh**t train.
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Unfortunately nothing has been confirmed by either side, it is all just guesswork and conjecture. :)
 
andybird123 said:
Same, not planning on buying anything maxwell, in truth i probably wont bother with water cooling my next cards, just cpu
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looking at what you said again, and bearing in mind my response. I would say it is unfair to say AMD like to ride the cow excrement train, because neither side has actually said anything.

As for other members of the forums, well we all like to mess about with trains now and again don't we :D:p:D

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