Band Aid 30

phil_c_ said:
Good read.. Sorry if already been posted
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Yeah read that earlier, totally agree with it. He should have spent more time on his own problems rather than criticise someone for disappearing to look after their own. That said Adele didn't do much to endear herself when she whined about her tax bill.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2011/may/25/adele-tax-grievances

OldCoals said:
Maybe he also should have spent a bit more time looking after the problems closer to his home.
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Yep, totally agree.
 
Cant really beat the first one and this is almost as bad as the last one - hopefully some good will come out of a god awful remake.
 
I could swallow it, with its factually inaccurate lyrics and its generally ****** tone, when it was for famine relief, money can buy food and that helps. I can't swallow it now, money can't buy a cure or a vaccine that doesn't yet exist. What are they going to do? give the dough to BigPharma for research? that'll be useful.
Do they know it's Christmas? probably, since almost a quarter of the worlds Christians live in Africa.
 
malfunkshun said:
I could swallow it, with its factually inaccurate lyrics and its generally ****** tone, when it was for famine relief, money can buy food and that helps. I can't swallow it now, money can't buy a cure or a vaccine that doesn't yet exist. What are they going to do? give the dough to BigPharma for research? that'll be useful.
Do they know it's Christmas? probably, since almost a quarter of the worlds Christians live in Africa.
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A lot of the countries in question don't have the money/equipment to even offer remedial care for the victims, so a lot are actually dying from things like shock and dehydration.

The money won't buy a cure in the short term, but it can mean that more people survive and less become infected due to lack of protective gear, there is a good reason why the survival rates in the African countries are so terrible whilst the the survival rates for Western citizens returned to their home countries has so far been pretty good (IIRC it's 50-70%+ death rate in Africa but out of the admittedly much smaller sample in the west, about 20-30%).
This completely ignores the number of people in the African countries that are dying but probably not counted in the official figures because they're not dying in health care facilities.
Also whilst the healthcare systems are being overwhelmed with Ebola cases the death rate from normal conditions (such as childbirth for example) is going up dramatically and likely to remain much higher for a long time because the health workers are amongst the most likely to die of Ebola, thus in countries where there was already a shortage of healthcare available to people, it's going to get much much worse in the short to mid term because the trained staff are at highest risk (so even if some of the money "just" goes towards offering first aid, and emergency medical training to people it'll have a massive effect).

So the money won't cure it, but will likely mean that more survive and that it should spread less quickly if they can afford/have access to (and proper training for) protective equipment, and basic medical supplies.

Having said that I sort of dislike Geldof (largely for his methods of getting people to be involved by guilt and borderline blackmail), and would donate directly to the DEC appeal where the money reaches the aid agencies faster and more directly.
 
Castiel said:
Live Aid didn't revive Queen's career,
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I disagree and I remember Roger Taylor saying so -

The band, now revitalised by the response to Live Aid – a "shot in the arm" Roger Taylor called it— and the ensuing increase in record sales, ended 1985 by releasing the single "One Vision".

A bit from Classic Rock at the time with an interview with Freddie -

THE 17 MINUTES ON STAGE AT WEMBLEY STADIUM IN JULY 1985 transformed Queen and remade them into a wonderfully camp, sleek and ubiquitous rockband, and the biggest British live act of the 80s. A renaissance of sorts had begun with 'The Works', in 1984, and the videos for 'Radio Ga-Ga' and 'I Want To Break Free', but it was their performance at Live Aid, where they were the only band cute enough to work out how to play all of their hits in miniature, that brought them back big-time.
Queen rotated around the stadiums of the world after Live Aid. After their jaded years, they enjoyed an Indian summer of a career. Their greatest hits albums sold millions, too.

And Freddie's quote -

"But then I've nothing else to do," he said, and then laughed. "I could become a gardener, actually. I suppose I could become a Japanese landscape gardener. Why should I carry on? No, I mean I want to. We really didn't think the tour was going to take off in such a way. I mean, after Live Aid we thought 'Yes', but now it's breaking all box office records in certain places. That's sort of more of an impetus to carry on, to be honest. Why leave now? What the hell am I going to do anyway?"

So yes, even Roger and Freddie agreed it helped to revive their careers.

And Clapton from a fan site -

Clapton toured the world in support of Behind The Sun, but did not take this new studio band on the road. An incendiary four-song set at Live Aid in July 1985 boosted Eric’s popularity to new heights.
 
I do struggle with all this band aid stuff. I struggle to understand any celeb doing this type of stuff and expecting us to donate.

Other than band aid 30, a few years back Chris Moyles doing Kilimanjaro was very sickening. Hang on, someone pays for you to have a once in a lifetime experience, buys you all the gear, and you want me to donate money to your cause?

No thanks, I'll donate money when I want and to who I want privately. Bunch of self absorb idiots that make out we as a country don't do enough.
 
Dimple said:
I disagree
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It doesn't matter whether you agree or not. Queen were hugely successful immediately prior to Band Aid, this is a matter of record (pardon the pun). Live Aid did not revive a flagging career as it wasn't flagging to begin with. It doesn't matter what people say to the media or interviews, even band members as history tells its own story.

Live Aid was made by Queen, Queen were not made by Live Aid.

Unless you are saying that The Works, Radio GaGa etc and the Tour that accompanied the album were not successful?
 
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Castiel said:
It doesn't matter whether you agree or not. Queen were hugely successful immediately prior to Band Aid, this is a matter of record (pardon the pun). Live Aid did not revive a flagging career as it wasn't flagging to begin with. It doesn't matter what people say to the media or interviews, even band members as history tells its own story.

Live Aid was made by Queen, Queen were not made by Live Aid.

Unless you are saying that The Works, Radio GaGa etc and the Tour that accompanied the album were not successful?
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I never said they had a lagging career or that record sales were down, I said it revived their career. There was a real worry at the time they were going to split because they were all going through the hoops but playing Live Aid charged their batteries up.
I've given you quotes from both Roger and Freddie and I know that Brian May felt the same way in an interview but I don't know about John Deacon because he never speaks.
You're just looking at money, I'm looking at how the individuals were reacting at the time and how we Queen fans thought they were splitting.
 
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