Caporegime
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The rather ridiculous thing about Rodgers is he keeps getting caught in all these epic quotes he's said in the past. LIke about chelsea he stated how it was easy to play defensively but he prefers to educate his players to play football. That sounds great(well at least it did to him) when you lose to a defensive Chelsea, but when you try and defend a slim lead against a weak team and lose because your defence is awful.
There are a half dozen other brilliant quotes that have come back to bite him in the ass. The thing where he criticised Spurs for spending 100mil badly on too many players in one window.... goes out and does the same thing and the players fail just as badly.
AS for Klopp taking the second best team in Germany and taking them to the bottom, he's the manager who made them the second best team, won two titles against a team spending what three times as much, got to a champions league final.
Smaller teams with less money will have bad years, it's pretty hilarious that a Liverpool fan would fail to recognise what losing one of their star players, having other key players out and having a difficult european campaign with a smaller squad can do to league form.
Newcastle had europa and had even more injuries and dropped down the table. Dortmund have actually had around 12 months of injuries. Top players leaving coupled with many of their best players being in poor form due to repeat injuries, very little rest/rotation in the past 12 months due to injuries to other players and things like the World Cup meaning the squad is further weakened/tired/injured.
They are still a good team but having a difficult year, losing players and without most of them having the summer off is likely to have a huge effect.
he's a top manager, they'll finish higher than they are and they are doing well in the champions league.
The squad I think will longer term have issues competing in the league. There is only so long the same group of players can lose to a team with more money who just buy your best players before you end up psychologically beaten before the season starts.
Klopp's brand of a football, tactics in big games, ability to get to a champs league final on a budget and ability to pick out some fantastic transfer market dealings will make him a success anywhere. At Arsenal or Liverpool, with a much bigger budget to deal with and a deeper squad there would be very little chance of such a bad year as well.
However as an Arsenal fan I'd take bottom half one year, along with champs league final and two league titles over a 5 year period.
EDIT:- I think Rodgers has performed poorly, he's bought badly IMHO and not made changes he needed to. But it was painfully obvious to anyone who watches new teams get into europe every year, or teams who lose their best player, that Liverpool were going to have a MUCH tougher season this year. Fighting it out around midtable for parts of the season hasn't surprised me. Then when things go badly and you lose players to transfer or injury, the form of other players go out of the window.
SEriously do people not watch teams who get european football or injuries to key players drop down the table, it happens almost every year. What happens when Newcastle can name an almost unchanged side, almost get in the champions league, give them euro football injuries and a different team every game, relegation zone, even the uninjured players form went to utter crap. When the team managers to get together play a bunch of games with similar side every week, form goes back up.
There are a half dozen other brilliant quotes that have come back to bite him in the ass. The thing where he criticised Spurs for spending 100mil badly on too many players in one window.... goes out and does the same thing and the players fail just as badly.
AS for Klopp taking the second best team in Germany and taking them to the bottom, he's the manager who made them the second best team, won two titles against a team spending what three times as much, got to a champions league final.
Smaller teams with less money will have bad years, it's pretty hilarious that a Liverpool fan would fail to recognise what losing one of their star players, having other key players out and having a difficult european campaign with a smaller squad can do to league form.
Newcastle had europa and had even more injuries and dropped down the table. Dortmund have actually had around 12 months of injuries. Top players leaving coupled with many of their best players being in poor form due to repeat injuries, very little rest/rotation in the past 12 months due to injuries to other players and things like the World Cup meaning the squad is further weakened/tired/injured.
They are still a good team but having a difficult year, losing players and without most of them having the summer off is likely to have a huge effect.
he's a top manager, they'll finish higher than they are and they are doing well in the champions league.
The squad I think will longer term have issues competing in the league. There is only so long the same group of players can lose to a team with more money who just buy your best players before you end up psychologically beaten before the season starts.
Klopp's brand of a football, tactics in big games, ability to get to a champs league final on a budget and ability to pick out some fantastic transfer market dealings will make him a success anywhere. At Arsenal or Liverpool, with a much bigger budget to deal with and a deeper squad there would be very little chance of such a bad year as well.
However as an Arsenal fan I'd take bottom half one year, along with champs league final and two league titles over a 5 year period.
EDIT:- I think Rodgers has performed poorly, he's bought badly IMHO and not made changes he needed to. But it was painfully obvious to anyone who watches new teams get into europe every year, or teams who lose their best player, that Liverpool were going to have a MUCH tougher season this year. Fighting it out around midtable for parts of the season hasn't surprised me. Then when things go badly and you lose players to transfer or injury, the form of other players go out of the window.
SEriously do people not watch teams who get european football or injuries to key players drop down the table, it happens almost every year. What happens when Newcastle can name an almost unchanged side, almost get in the champions league, give them euro football injuries and a different team every game, relegation zone, even the uninjured players form went to utter crap. When the team managers to get together play a bunch of games with similar side every week, form goes back up.
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