Yes, but look at the post count of the worst offenders, a gobby bunch of tub thumpers
great for the companies image too !
EU court blocks gay asylum tests
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Yes, but look at the post count of the worst offenders, a gobby bunch of tub thumpers
great for the companies image too !
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The founder of the company is some sort of racist, IRRC.
Yes indeed, but we still annoy them
The founder of the company is some sort of racist, IRRC.
Yes indeed, but we still annoy them
Haha, yeah.
It's a battle with no final victory or no retreat, attempting to put an argument of reason & ethics against a never ending torrent of mass ignorance & bigotry.
I actually feel sorry for the right wingers on here (who are just economically/governmentally right wing) - the social & cultural further right than normal supporters really give that entire side of the debate a terrible name. As much as I dislike Cameron as least he isn't 'that kind' of right-wing.
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lol at the image, not sure if your being funny or your being dumb on purpose but either way...
xenophobia:
Xenophobia is a legitimate word to describe the fear of foreigners / immigrants
thanks
The founder of the company is some sort of racist, IRRC.
Yes indeed, but we still annoy them
how true is this ? I have spent a fair bit of money with OCUK, if there is any proven legitimacy to this im not spending anymore on the store and il got to novaT or Scan.
That is the UKIP manifesto "hate everyone who is not identical to you, because you are perfect and everyone else who is different is to blame"
Yes I did read it. Sorry you don't like it and thanks for your contribution. If it is confusing or maybe even clouded by the homosexuality angle, let me try and make it clearer.
If you are born in a country where conformity to that countries laws or socially accepted norm is a requirement, that probably isn't very nice for you.
If the failure to conform makes you a target for persecution, that also sucks.
If that failure to conform puts your life in danger, that is terrible.
Knowing all of that you can either choose to leave because its not for you or you can choose to be at risk by staying and not conforming.
Why by doing (or claiming to do) the latter, should you be awarded residency to another country over anyone else?
I don't believe the country I live in and the benefits system I support with the taxes I pay should be obliged to accept asylum based on an individuals choice.
My view. Take it or leave it.
Pretty well known if you've been around the internet or you google the right search terms. There was a huge leak of dons room posts at one time too I believe. But the company has since been sold on and is owned by a German company now.
ohh ok , that’s ok then the Germans aren’t known for fascist behaviour
It's true the founder had some strong opinions but since 2012 Ocuk has been 100% owned by Caseking of Germany. So unless you have something against Germans you're okay to buy from Ocuk
Leave it thanks.
I most certainly do think those with a greater risk to themselves in the society they live deserve to be given residency to another country over somebody else.
The need is greater.
It's true the founder had some strong opinions but since 2012 Ocuk has been 100% owned by Caseking of Germany. So unless you have something against Germans you're okay to buy from Ocuk
"some strong opinions" well technically being racist is against the law and any company operating or supporting such viewpoints would face stiff penalties if proven so its good to know that OCUK shop isn’t (national) fronted by that anymore, of course I know as a customer & consumer I could always contact trading standards or Caseking direct if I had a complaint.
But no, Im not hypocritical I have nothing against Germany or the German people who by matter of coincidence tend to be very intelligent and well mannered people of Europe and have got a lot of things right recently that the UK could learn from.
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But you know people do not choose their sexuality. People are not gay through choice. But the country (which they did not choose to be born into) chose to make it illegal for them to be gay.
How is any of that fair on them? People who are willing to work hard and contribute but can't actually do that in their own country due to the stupid rules which are enforced so want to make something of their lives elsewhere instead. To have basic human rights such as being allowed to love someone else without being prosecuted for it?
Can you honestly say in their shoes you would just get on with it and be forever alone? I somewhat doubt that. Not just that, but not being allowed to be yourself in general?
This isn't simply a case of "he chose to leave" it's more of a case of the situation they are born into and circumstances set simply do not allow some of the most basic human standards. It's borderline being forced out through rejection from society.
That's completely different to him entering this country because of his homosexual beliefs though. I'm not sure, sadly, whether you can claim asylum because someone thinks you're gay.
Pretty sure it has to be because you are.
And as we know, people for hundreds of years have been hiding the fact that they're gay. I'm not saying this is right, I happen to think it's wrong, but if my life depended on it I know which route I'd take. I'd fight the war from a safe place.
Very well put.
A point which no doubt will be missed by many.
If a person is likely to experience death or punishment for non-crimes protected under our rights then that does qualify for then being given asylum. We value freedom of expression, freedom of religion, freedom from religion - these are rights we consider to applicable to all & values to claim to protect internationally. It makes perfect sense we would grant stay to those seeking a society who upholds these very values.
How do you feel about us giving refuge an atheist seeking asylum due to them facing persecution at the hands of a highly religious culture, wanting to punish him for blasphemy?.
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I didn't say it was fair. I just don't agree that as a country we should be obliged to correct that unfairness.
And in their shoes, I would seek entry to the country where I would likely be accepted while giving me the best economical solution.
I would prefer that to be elsewhere as this country has enough burden from its existing population.
And in their shoes, I would seek entry to the country where I would likely be accepted while giving me the best economical solution.
I would prefer that to be elsewhere as this country has enough burden from its existing population.
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I'd think they should keep that opinion under wraps as it would get them in trouble.
What about if we suddenly have lots of Christian converts from places under threat of Islamic extremism? Open doors?