Schizophrenia doesn't mean what you think it means...
EU court blocks gay asylum tests
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Schizophrenia doesn't mean what you think it means...
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It doesn't mean what we think it means, right? I was only making a joke about the use of WE rdm. I don't mean to offend anyone with mental illness.
I am not in mood to argue today about bumming and definition of homosexuality. Ill leave it as saying that i never defined homosexuality as bumming.
All i said was that it is not necessity like drinking water and that people should be free to bum whoever they want, as long as its voluntary of course.
I don't see why that makes me an idiot. Its like its ok to talk about homosexuality as long as we all pretend like it has nothing to do with homosexual sex.
Either way its not related to asylum discussion which is what i was trying to say.
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I would like to hope that whoever you have a relationship with, that the connection goes deeper than sex. Evidently, you can't see past sex.
Many homosexual couples don't even engage in penetrative sex because, unsurprisingly, they don't all like it!
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Abraham Maslow, a greater mind in the area of human psychology than any armchair posters on here, worked out that expressing sexuality goes at the base of the hierarchy of needs, the most important level.
Some people are born aseuxal and have no interest in sex. However a lot of people who say they are celibate are not, or are not by choice. Suppressing your sexual orientation is going to do harm long term and being threatened with death for being gay deserves the right to asylum.
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Abraham Maslow was a member of the frankfurt school that created cultural marxism.
I do not think that people sexuality should be oppressed. I just don't think that it warrants asylum. They just need to move to another country.
I don't even think asylum is that needed in this day and age. In history when international transportation was not as available as it is today, asylum was often the only means of escape that people had from oppression. These days people can drive or fly to nearly anywhere in the world within 24 hours and they can apply through normal means to get a visa like anyone else. There would be nothing stopping someone who is homosexual from trying to emigrate using normal mechanism.
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Your argument counts on people have the ability, the money, and the means to emigrate using normal mechanisms.
The asylum is not given based on sexuality it's given based on the threat of persecution. All legitimate asylum seekers are fleeing some sort of persecution. It has nothing to do with sexuality, or any of the reasons behind why these people are being persecuted, but purely the fact that they are, in fact, being persecuted.
By your logic anyone who is in an asylum seeking situation can do this, then why do we need to allow them in in the first place?
Because it obviously isn't as easy as that. *sigh*
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Well why should they be any different than someone who is not homosexual but would also want to move to the UK? they have to work hard and save up for a visa and apply, while if he was just homosexual then he could get here for free and you think that is reasonable?
The whole point of this thread is saying that you can not test for homosexuality as per EU rules, thus its a potential loop hole in asylum seeking because anyone can claim they are homosexual.
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They aren't claiming asylum for being gay; they're claiming asylum for being persecuted. Should we ignore them because you can't do a gay test?
They won't be getting asylum simply because of their sexuality alone, ONLY if their life is in danger because the country they are fleeing persecute people based on sexuality. Obviously say for example a gay person from Canada claims asylum based on their sexuality it would not be granted because the last time I checked Canada don't imprison or execute gay people
I was once going to a gay club in Manchester with a gay friend (this is about 20 years ago so they are probably more enlightened now) and the bouncer said 'It's a gay night and you don't look gay, prove you are'
He wanted me to snog a man. I declined but persuaded him that I was there as my gay friend wanted me to be there, not for any other agenda and I was let in.
It seems a bit off to try to get asylum seekers to have a snog or a quick reach around at passport control. Perhaps they should have to name 5 Barbara Streisand songs or something.
He wanted me to snog a man. I declined but persuaded him that I was there as my gay friend wanted me to be there, not for any other agenda and I was let in.
It seems a bit off to try to get asylum seekers to have a snog or a quick reach around at passport control. Perhaps they should have to name 5 Barbara Streisand songs or something.
The point is that, once again, you are arguing from a position of ignorance. Your joke doesn't work if you actually know what schizophrenia is as it has nothing at all to do with multiple personality disorder.