FreeSync monitors hit mass production, coming in Jan-Feb

[Silent_Scone]

Sub £400 and I'd likely buy, above that we're just being ripped off. The swift pricing is simply ridiculous and when consumers let companies get away with it by just paying anyway, it only encourages everyone else to try to sell at the same price point.

That's the beauty of the Swift though. There isn't a comparable spec yet. If manufacturers were to release such a panel and have it priced noticeably less then the Swift, pricing would likely plummet eventually.

I read people fishing around daily who are unsure of making the jump for such an expensive TN panel, but it is undoubtedly a cracking monitor for gaming. Since early June gamers have had this as an option, the profiteering comes from the lack of competitive products.

Something that happens a lot, actually. Not sure if you've noticed in other component markets at all lol.

The lack of respectable panels probably comes from the fact that 1440p in themselves are not cheap to manufacture, so throwing in the higher end spectrum you just put an even small margin on what you'll likely sell. Especially outside of the professional segment. Gamers are the only people that really benefit from the key elements associated with response time and higher refresh, at least for the very most part.

 

[Marine-RX179]

That's the beauty of the Swift though. There isn't a comparable spec yet. If manufacturers were to release such a panel and have it priced noticeably less then the Swift, pricing would likely plummet eventually.

I read people fishing around daily who are unsure of making the jump for such an expensive TN panel, but it is undoubtedly a cracking monitor for gaming. Since early June gamers have had this as an option, the profiteering comes from the lack of competitive products.

Something that happens a lot, actually. Not sure if you've noticed in other component markets at all lol.

The lack of respectable panels probably comes from the fact that 1440p in themselves are not cheap to manufacture, so throwing in the higher end spectrum you just put an even small margin on what you'll likely sell. Especially outside of the professional segment. Gamers are the only people that really benefit from the key elements associated with response time and higher refresh, at least for the very most part.

I still think it is the case of the usual "Asus premium" for being the first to the market. Like when the first 4K monitors was brought out by Asus, they charged the moon for it, simply because they had no competition; fast forward to today, its 4K monitor still has a premium over other brands, but at least they are all in the more reason price range.

Until more brands bring out monitor of same or better spec, Asus will continue to charge high-price for it...it is that simple.

 

[setter]

And once you stick ROG on a product, there's an extra few quid to start with.

 

[Silent_Scone]

There is a certain degree of ROG tax yes. lol

I can see what DM is saying in that they are rreally pushing 4K with the TN panels. Almost like they're going out of fashion. Whether that's being pushed as a standard or not is a question for another thread, but it's definitely not ready.

I went through three panels and none of them were quite right either due to using out of spec CR timings or bleed, or drivers. There does need to be more of an emphasis on what else is available. As with three Titans I wasn't really all that ready to make the leap. There is a lot of appeal for running that many pixels, just not on the hardware we have today.

For that reason, Samsung's leap into UHD with FreeSync isn't really a great opener. Compete with the Swift first off.

 

[Marine-RX179]

For that reason, Samsung's leap into UHD with FreeSync isn't really a great opener. Compete with the Swift first off.

I guess it's down to what the users prioritise in terms of usage.

Samsung's UHD FressSync monitor was kinda "mere" to me and didn't interest me at all, but now that the AMD driver has "Built-in UltraHD upsampling convert 1080p videos to near-UltraHD quality on 4K displays", I am getting a little intrigued, as my FullHD video contents would be able to get "upscaled". Frankly I actually more more movies and anime than gaming thesedays

With that said, I still want a 21:9 monitor for gaming lol

 

[Mei]

I guess it's down to what the users prioritise in terms of usage.

Samsung's UHD FressSync monitor was kinda "mere" to me and didn't interest me at all, but now that the AMD driver has "Built-in UltraHD upsampling convert 1080p videos to near-UltraHD quality on 4K displays", I am getting a little intrigued, as my FullHD video contents would be able to get "upscaled". Frankly I actually more more movies and anime than gaming thesedays

With that said, I still want a 21:9 monitor for gaming lol

sounds like a great add yeh!
besides the content availability I don't think our global internet is ready for 4k downloading yet
doing this on the graphics card makes a lot of sense, good TV's will do this, monitors wont, im sure NVidia will have to do something simular

 

[Nexus18]

Madvr with MPC HC is still far better!

 

[LambChop]

Nice to see Nvidia users being honest about GSync.... Got a feeling tho that AMD users will not be so honest when it comes to Freesync. It's going to be the best invention since the wheel even if its not.

 

[shankly1985]

Nice to see Nvidia users being honest about GSync.... Got a feeling tho that AMD users will not be so honest when it comes to Freesync. It's going to be the best invention since the wheel even if its not.

I'll be completely honest, I still have my doubts about this tech... Seeing has I play completely Vsync off i'll know right away how it performs.

 

[setter]

Thing with technology like this, it's a thing none of us can say much about until we try it. Take 120Hz, I read a lot from others about how much better it feels, was sceptical tbh. But when I tried it I felt/noticed the difference pretty quickly.

 

[shankly1985]

Thing with technology like this, it's a thing none of us can say much about until we try it. Take 120Hz, I read a lot from others about how much better it feels, was sceptical tbh. But when I tried it I felt/noticed the difference pretty quickly.

Very true... People who never used 120hz think 60hz is perfect, its not till you try 120hz you notice the effect right away and think how did I manage with 60hz lol Its this reason am still stuck with 1080p.

I hoping Freesync is a success, but if it isn't then I can happy carry on no loss to me.

 

[Mei]

Madvr with MPC HC is still far better!

lol we will have to see them both in action
I like I can mess with quality settings and it works even with web video that's way cool to me

I'll be completely honest, I still have my doubts about this tech... Seeing has I play completely Vsync off i'll know right away how it performs.

depends if theres even a screen I like with it
think im in for a long wait on that

 

[shankly1985]

lol we will have to see them both in action
I like I can mess with quality settings and it works even with web video that's way cool to me



depends if theres even a screen I like with it
think im in for a long wait on that

Yeah, I going to wait and see what BenQ bring out. I hoping 240hz display

 

[Orangey]

ONO means Or Near Offer.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Nice to see Nvidia users being honest about GSync.... Got a feeling tho that AMD users will not be so honest when it comes to Freesync. It's going to be the best invention since the wheel even if its not.

I run 2x290x's pushing for 90+ fps in most games because that is what I like. I've been waiting to get a higher res high refresh panel for 3+ years, there just aren't really any. Freesync should be seeing an increase in the number of 1440p 144hz panels as not surprisingly the industry as a whole is waiting for a standard to adhere to(partially because they are forced to move forwards, partially because they don't want to be left behind a feature that other guys have). Companies don't want to make one panel for g-sync then release a new monitor 6 months later that supports DP 1.2a/freesync, they want to make one panel.

Freesync is incidental, I'll try it out but it's primary ability is to smooth out frame rate which has a MUCH larger impact the lower the frame rate.

The bigger the variation in frame rate the less smooth a game is, the lower this range is(ie 40-70 vs 60-90fps) the less smooth a game is. The higher frame rate and lower variability the less effect freesync/g-sync has.

Mantle giving higher minimums both increases the range and reduces the variability in frame rates. Mantle is bad for freesync

Like I said, I've wanted a high refresh higher res panel for... well since about 1995 when I started building my own computers

Just looks to me like freesync is pushing a new range of panels from manufacturers at a time when frankly they need a 144hz/1440p panel to compete with the competition. To me freesync is the likely route by which I get the panel I want. If it makes Watchdogs or Assassins Creed stutter less, that is just a bonus.

 

[BS Dave]

Very true... People who never used 120hz think 60hz is perfect, its not till you try 120hz you notice the effect right away and think how did I manage with 60hz lol Its this reason am still stuck with 1080p.

I hoping Freesync is a success, but if it isn't then I can happy carry on no loss to me.

have you got 120hz working with VSR then shanks - sounds like you do?

 

[Kaapstad]

I have not been following the Freesync threads but will these monitors work with NVidia cards as well ?

 

[Gregster]

I have not been following the Freesync threads but will these monitors work with NVidia cards as well ?

They will work but no Adaptive Sync.

 

[SkeeterUK]

Hope a nvidia enabled one comes up for 200 or less thats 27" and 1440 with 120 or better refresh rates and isnt tn.

I can dream..

Still dunno why montiors are expensive compared to modern lcd tvs i mean the only thing that monitors do better is better response rates so less input lag the rest is the same on tvs heck there even ISP panels most of em like the 50" blaupunkt i just got for £230. Monitors seriously need to start reducing in price cos the specs apart from what i mentioned is more or less similar. Maybe a bit better as well in dpi but meh doubt ppl care that much as long as text is perfectly readable.

 

[LambChop]

Hope a nvidia enabled one comes up for 200 or less thats 27" and 1440 with 120 or better refresh rates and isnt tn.

I can dream..

Still dunno why montiors are expensive compared to modern lcd tvs i mean the only thing that monitors do better is better response rates so less input lag the rest is the same on tvs heck there even ISP panels most of em like the 50" blaupunkt i just got for £230. Monitors seriously need to start reducing in price cos the specs apart from what i mentioned is more or less similar. Maybe a bit better as well in dpi but meh doubt ppl care that much as long as text is perfectly readable.

I'm sure there will be a gsync screen of that spec before async. I think nvidia just out of principle will stick with gsync, first idea, first to market and will not want to touch anything adopted by AMD.