Which job? Difficult decision.

It sounds like it is going to cost you about £8-£10k to commute to the second job in fuel and time anyway. Have you calculated this?
 
Job 2 IMO. Dropping 3hrs off your daily commute will probably make it feel a lot closer than it is and if job 1 won't even countenance an extra £2k then you could be waiting a while to get back to parity with your current salary never mind what you could end up on.

Depends a bit on how much you value training, personally I enjoy learning new things and a company that pays for me to do courses I am interested in is much more likely to keep me happy.
 
I've been offered a position for £45k, which is about £18k more than what i'm currently on. Downside is that it would involve quadrupling my commute (180mile round trip).

I don't think I could sustain that as the lack of free time, the effect of early nights and very early mornings would slowly grind me down. Quality of life always wins, even if the £££ is less.
 
You should be able to work out the amount the commute to the 2 hour round-trip job would cost by your current fuel costs - which would then I'd imagine work out at possibly £2k per year (at a push as well, just being 'overpriced') which would still put you at earning more from Option 2.

Regardless, I agree with the above. Money seems to be a factor for yourself so taking the pay-cut really would make you unhappy. Option 2 seems logical, at least until you get all info from Option 3.

Good luck.
 
I am not happy at my current role I, something doesn't feel right I have been contemplating a move for some time anyway I want to become part of something "bigger". I currently do get decent wage rises regularly but I have no job satisfaction at all the commute is also rather painful.

I am currently in this situation except I have been here for 2 years with no pay or performance reviews and having to pay for my own training and use holiday :(
 
I have asked for a slightly higher wage ( 2k more ) from the first company, they simply can't because of the role on offer. The person running the department was being *very* persuasive at the interview telling me it was the right place to work and trying to say I should be working there even before making the offer...

They can't budge for an extra 2k even though you'll be taking a pay cut still? It's a **** job/manager has no clout.... If the job/department were valued this wouldn't be an issue. Big company doesn't necessarily mean good progression - check reviews on glassdoor/contact existing employees on LinkedIn... they could easily be BSing the progression angle since they have nothing else to offer you.

The other role is already senior and offers more money + training...
 
Unless you're desperate to move I'd probably say both jobs are not right. I'd see dropping 10k as going backwards rather than forwards and it may well take you years to get back to that.

Most jobs are normally seen as a 'payrise' and it's normally when you get the big leaps in salary - it's one of the key reasons to move jobs. You can always go back to them and ask for more money I guess if you really want to move.



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Neither seem like good options.

No way you should consider a drop in pay of that magnitude unless you're moving from a high pay area (e.g. London) to a low pay area (e.g. Yorkshire).

I would also consider an hour commute a no-go unless there was a really compelling reason to go for it.
 
It sounds like it is going to cost you about £8-£10k to commute to the second job in fuel and time anyway. Have you calculated this?

Option 3 is: I have a further interview at a place around 20 minutes away likely on the same sort of salary but a smaller company ~10 people and this again looks like a good role for a decent company

My current commute is 2.5hours ( 5 in total a day ) both options are considerably better.

That's not what I meant, I'm comparing the new jobs. The commute in fuel and time to new job 2 may well cost £8-£10k, therefore offsetting the salary difference.
 
Option 3 is: I have a further interview at a place around 20 minutes away likely on the same sort of salary but a smaller company ~10 people and this again looks like a good role for a decent company

My current commute is 2.5hours ( 5 in total a day ) both options are considerably better.

Christ almighty, 5 hours of your day is just commuting?
 
That's not what I meant, I'm comparing the new jobs. The commute in fuel and time to new job 2 may well cost £8-£10k, therefore offsetting the salary difference.

Ah, fair enough. I would hope an hour each way commute wouldn't cost anywhere close to 8k though!
 
It won't cost 8k but those 2 hours of time are effectively unpaid time doing nothing... I am currently needing a new car, I can get rid of that idea altogether if I am only using my infrequently it doesn't need change from what it is now.

Company 1 is rated as one of the best companies to work for in the city on glassdoor.
 
Sounds like you're pretty keen on option 1 tbh?

Just make sure you're not going to regret taking a several year backwards step in terms of career progression/salary.
 
I find commuting quite a relative experience. I'd hate to drive 1 or more hours per day, but I'd have no complaints doing an equivalent journey by train with a little walking (maybe not so much if we factored in lengthy Tube journeys - the Tube during rush-hour is a cesspool)

But coming from a 2.5 hour commute to a 1 hour commute is a no-brainer, irrespective of the mode of transport. Option 2.
 
You'd be mad to do option 1. If they're lowballing on offer and won't even make up 2k then it'd suggest to me a terrible place for development.

Option 2 sounds good as its moving you forward and giving you more experience.

Can't be arsed to scroll back on this phone for option 3,:D
 
Option 3 is a role 20 min train then a 10 min walk doing pretty much exactly what I want. I have an interview on Monday. Not making any decisions till then.

The difference in wage between option 1 and 2 is 24k (28k with an on call allowance ) to 32/4k but likely up to high 30's after training and proving myself...

Perhaps these things shouldn't be posted on public forums, but I really value people's opinions. Particularly here since most of you are clever guys!
 
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