Will UKIP win its first seat in parliament tonight?

If you choose to believe the Daily Mail he has been to those nasty bankers and asked them for money to make a film about himself and also set up a company to invest in the film industry for the sole purpose of tax avoidance.

You should read to the end of the article before posting inflammatory rubbish ;)

Daily Mail said:
A source said Brand did not benefit from any tax relief because he is not an investor in the company.

He didn't set up a company to invest in the film industry, he set up a film company and other people who invested in the company by buying shares get the tax relief, which is there to promote venture capital
 
[FnG]magnolia;27344905 said:
Well, they've said he has and they've said it on the most widely viewed website in the UK so I imagine there might be something to it.

Well i wouldn't be such a hypocrite about it :cool:

If it's true will you change your party preference? Or is "chinky bird" okay in your household?

IF it's true then he simply will go the way of all other MP's that have said such things and removed, i've yet to see proof through, but the fact he's not going anywhere seems to mean that the DM can't back up it's claims and is the Natasha Bolter of newspapers.
 
Because Brand is a man that says a lot but stands for very little. His only aim is to make himself antiestablishment.

I think you're letting your personal opinion of him as a celebrity shine through a bit here.

You say he says a lot, but stands for very little. I don't know how you can really say that. He hasn't been involved in debates for all that long, in the scheme of things, and yet in that time he has been on multiple campaigns supporting causes. He's clearly passionate about certain aspects of the current 'system'. He's done a lot more to make people talk in that amount of time than some MPs have done in decades.

His aim is anti-establishment. He doesn't claim not to be. I don't think this is reason to write him off though; more just to take him with a pinch of salt.

Everything is popularise nonsense, and his primary followers are people who spend most of their days posting braindead crap on social media. He can't be taken seriously.

You're generalising. I never post on social media, and I quite like listening to what he has to say. I don't agree with it all, and he comes off very unprofessional at times, but why should that prevent him from getting involved?

My friend's dad is also a huge fan, and he's 65.

Politics doesn't need reality pop celebs who dip in and out when it suits them.

You're right, but we don't know whether he'll just disappear some time soon or when his agenda has been met. He's clearly got passion. He already has money, fame and followers - so I'm not sure he's doing it purely for the attention. He has plenty of that already. He really is a rags to riches story (with a lot of bumps along the way), which makes him considerably more normal than many others in parliament who were brought up in a secluded and privileged environment.

It needs committed, knowledgeable, civil individuals, who are free from the straight jacket of a broken party system, who are prepared to serve the interests of those that elected them before themselves or the party, and who are prepared to lead rather than be led

Absolutely. But that's quite a tall order and really a different point isn't it? he isn't wanting to be in government. He's trying to stimulate debate, not become a politician.

Like him or not, he's a character that some areas of society like and I think they're glad that he's engaging in matters on their behalf that no one else is doing. He's doing more than a lot more of us 'arm chair politicians' who think we can do better, but never try.
 
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[FnG]magnolia;27344905 said:
If it's true will you change your party preference? Or is "chinky bird" okay in your household?

He will ignore it, or laugh it off as trivial like every other UKIP scandal. UKIP can do no wrong in his eyes.
 
[FnG]magnolia;27344588 said:
I'm curious to see what robgmun or his partner feel about a member of his favoured party using the words "Chinky bird".



What do you think of being called Pom\Pommy\Pākehā\Limy :)

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[TW]Fox;27344700 said:
This is tricky as I agree with your point in general but have to ask - who do you think it was that built our railways in the 1800s?

I believe they were originally very expensive in terms of how accessible they were to the average working person, and attitudes during those times were for rich business owners to undertake these sorts of projects almost as a vanity project. The economics have certainly changed since then as well.
 
He will ignore it, or laugh it off as trivial like every other UKIP scandal. UKIP can do no wrong in his eyes.

Well good for you switching from Labour because they had links to Pedophilia, that's why you switched, right? But would you switch again if the Greens turned out to be a bunch of hypocrites over fat-cat salaries? Just curious....
 
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It's more funny that the "MASSIVE EXCLUSIVE" for the Daily Mail that after 6 hours is almost half-way down the web-page and not mentioned by any other paper this morning. Seems like they're back peddling furiously, where's the audio? Don't they usually release the 'tapes'? When were these supposed comments made? Which sheep are you voting for in NZ? Is NZ politics so ******* boring you feel you have concern yourself with someone else?

Perhaps when a brain dead Farage fanboy says it to your partner in a derogatory manner you will understand the seriousness of the issue.

There are problems we have in this country like any other nation, this should make us rise to the challenge, come together and show the best of us.

Blaming immigrants, capitalising on fear is not the way to fix things.
 
Well good for you switching from Labour because they had links to Pedophilia, that's why you switched, right? But would you switch again if the Greens turned out to be a bunch of hypocrites over fat-cat salaries? Just curious....

All parties are far from perfect. However I'm not blind to that, whereas it seems you swallow the UKIP dogma hook, line, and sinker.
 
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