best way to route 5.1 sound to everything then all in one amp.

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I got a new TV with optical out a android box with HDMI and optical out and my pioneer dcs 313 with a optical in but no HDMI. And another DVD player that has HDMI out but no optical.

How do I set this up so everything carries a 5.1 signal to my pioneer 313. Would I need a switcher or would connecting DVD and android by HDMI to TV and using 1 optical from TV to amp do? In hope TV passes any sound source from HDMI through its optical out?
 
You have to read the TV manual. Not all TVs are the same. Some will pass DD and DTS. Some only pass DD. Some won't pass any bitstream sound from HDMI at all. Everything is converted to stereo. Beware too, TVs with a HD tuner that will output DD ftom HD channels, but not DD from HDMI sources.
 
Yeah its got a freeview hd tuner in it. Its that blapunkt 50/148z. Not read the manual much but didn't think it would say much about this kinda thing. Won't be using live TV tho from freeview tho.
 
It say. Connecting to external audio devices (amps, surround sound and soundbars) then a pic of TV with cable to amps optical in.

Then in sound menu it says.

Surround sound - allows you to turn this function on or off

Then it says

Digital output - this is the coax digital audio output. Choose from

Off.
Auto
Pcm - use this if ur connecting to stereo HiFi via optical cable. Pulse modulation is a digital rep of an analogue signal.

Setup menu states: HDMI cec. Allows HDMI devices to control each other and allows the user to operate multiple devices with one remote.

That's all I can find in it.
 
Unfortunately it sounds like you've reached the limitation of your low end hardware.

What a lot of people in your position would do is just randomly plug stuff in until it works, but as you'll have noticed you won't get your full surround sound with all your devices and thus you're not getting your moneys worth out of your system.

Looking at the specs I don't think you'll get full surround sound from the optical from your TV. This would mean that there is literally no way to get what you want short of buying "splitters" that take your HDMI signal and split it out into an optical cable for your Pioneer (you'd need two of these "Neet - HDMI Audio Converter / Extractor" £35 from the rainforest) Does your Pioneer have 3 optical ins? If not, again you'd be screwed.

If that's not an option (and it's a horrid option) then you're best bet is to buy a dedicated AV receiver and speakers to replace your pioneer.

This will allow you to plug in all your devices via HDMI and take full advantage of the surround sound capabilities.

£400 to buy a "separates bundle" (AVR and Speakers) should get you an AVR with at least 4xHDMI in and be a marked improvement over your existing setup.

Sell your Pioneer to someone on gumtree for £100 and put it towards the replacement.
 
Yeah its a old system I know but can't afford new stuff. Would one of these do to connect all optical stuff cept the Sony DVD player which is HDMI only, to the pioneers only optical input.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/HQ-Optical-TOSlink-Port-Switch/dp/B000QRI2EI

Yup, good find actually. You could use your DVD player as well if you bought one of the "optical audio extractors" I mentioned as well:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet®-Conve...words=Neet+-+HDMI+Audio+Converter+/+Extractor
 
Yeah, those optical switch boxes work fine, mate of mine was using one until recently.

I'd suggest put the money towards a proper AV amp than messing around with HDMI audio extractors.
 
Second-hand AV receive. Second-hand speaker kit. Solve all your problems for minimal outlay.

AV Receivers with HDMI have been around for years. As long as you're not looking for a daft spec such as 4K scaling or net features then you can pick up a decent used Receiver with HD decoding for £60-£80 that would have retailed for £400+. Speakers: Tannoy FX / EFX / SFX etc if you're looking for a sub/sat system. Ballpark £60. Other speaker kits are available.
 
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Yeah, sorry, I meant to mention that option as well. Second hand is def the way to go with AV stuff. All three of my AVRs and all sets of speakers are second hand.
 
Well I'll see about selling the pioneer tho need to sort the dvd drive out as sometimes says no disc. I have no idea what to look for tho second hand for av amps and speakers tbh. Any suggestions like a few for av amps and a few speaker setups like brand and model info etc somit like av amp no more than 50 and same for speakers. If speakers would be better for 2.1 I might consider that. Keep in mind got old bloke upstairs as live in a flat so nothing too booming.
 
Well I'll see about selling the pioneer tho need to sort the dvd drive out as sometimes says no disc. I have no idea what to look for tho second hand for av amps and speakers tbh. Any suggestions like a few for av amps and a few speaker setups like brand and model info etc somit like av amp no more than 50 and same for speakers. If speakers would be better for 2.1 I might consider that. Keep in mind got old bloke upstairs as live in a flat so nothing too booming.

When it comes to AV receivers, at your level, all you're looking for is an AVR that has multiple HDMI inputs.

Obviously, you at LEAST want two HDMI inputs, but the complete lack of extensibility means if you bought a two input HDMI AVR then you'd be facing the same problem a year down the line when you want to add another device.

Saying that, the problem is a lot easier to overcome because you would simply need an HDMI switch (5 port ones come in at £40 mark).

Spending £50 on an AVR is probably a bit unrealistic and I think the minimum you'd get away with (unless you bought off a friend that was just wanting rid of an old one) would be £150 mark. Even then that's pushing it when you factor in postage (these things aren't light!)

For speakers, don't ask me why, but these seem to be the kind of thing you can pick up for free on gumtree sometimes. Hell, I've got a pair of speakers at the moment then I'm willing to give away and a pair I'll be selling. Spending up to £100 on second hand ones should see you a nice pair of stereo speakers. One thing you'll likely loose is the "slimline" look for your all in one speakers. This is due to the fact that "separate" speakers are usually made with larger cabinets to help produce base. It's one of the reasons you'll notice such an improvement over your current setup.

Buying a sub (for your .1 of your speaker setup) isn't 100% necessary with separate speakers because of this and in my flat, none of my three setups include a sub.

Consider this though. If you'd be happy with 2.1 sound from a new system, why not just connect your DVD player and Android to your HDMI in on your TV and the use the optical out from the TV to your sound system. You'd still get 2.1 but not spent any money.

This would at least tide you over until you can save some cash for a system with a slightly longer life span.
 
Consider this though. If you'd be happy with 2.1 sound from a new system, why not just connect your DVD player and Android to your HDMI in on your TV and the use the optical out from the TV to your sound system. You'd still get 2.1 but not spent any money.

This would at least tide you over until you can save some cash for a system with a slightly longer life span.

Good call for a short term solution.
 
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