alternative pain management

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There has been many discussions of late about being able to use Marijuana E-Cigarettes to help in dealing with pain in the UK and it "looks" like things are changing for the better.

NOTE: The psychoactive ingredient THC has been removed, so individuals will not get the high from this.

UPDATED:
http://ukcsc.co.uk/


Main article:
http://www.break.com/article/great-britain-has-legal-marijuana-e-cigarettes-2797140

Other reading:
http://livinghealthy.angelfire.com/medical-marijuana-electric-cigarette.html

Sales for the Marijuana E-Cigarettes start in Jan 2015.
 
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As long as they don't drive or operate heavy machinery (which presumably they wouldn't do with the other heavy duty drugs they take?) then if it is going to make someone's life better it's fine. It has to be well managed though as integrating this in society could prove to be tricky.

What I don't want to see is this to become yet another legal drug that is acceptable as there are more than enough out there (i.e. alcohol, nicotine, caffeine etc...). Only for the fact that a lot of people are weak willed, they are not able to live or cope without them (look at alcohol!). There are enough things out there to enhance your life without the need of narcotics in my opinion.

That said, if used in medical ways I'm 100% in support to making people's lives better if it does.
 
Freefaller said:
As long as they don't drive or operate heavy machinery (which presumably they wouldn't do with the other heavy duty drugs they take?) then if it is going to make someone's life better it's fine. It has to be well managed though as integrating this in society could prove to be tricky.

What I don't want to see is this to become yet another legal drug that is acceptable as there are more than enough out there (i.e. alcohol, nicotine, caffeine etc...). Only for the fact that a lot of people are weak willed, they are not able to live or cope without them (look at alcohol!). There are enough things out there to enhance your life without the need of narcotics in my opinion.

That said, if used in medical ways I'm 100% in support to making people's lives better if it does.
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Not the same thing...

The psychoactive ingredient THC has been removed, so individuals will not get the high from this.
 
I am going to be buying one ASAP! I doubt it'll get me high, sadly, but I want to try it. It has the potential to help me with Crohn's Disease, though. I hate the fact that I have to take some pills, which could potentially be very harmful in the long term, when there are less aggressive alternatives.

I find the Daily Mail is a hilarious gauge of people's outrage on things like this. Though, there are a lot of manic conservatives who think that as soon as anyone starts taking illegal drugs, they turn into mentalists.

If you read the comments on the DM there are quite a few with people who say they have MS and nerve pain etc and they find that cannabis really helps them, so what a massive relief for them to stay on the side of legality in relieving their pain.

There are also a few people, one in particular, who are going nuts thinking that "it will still get you high" and "you shouldn't be taking illegal drugs for pain management." These people are clearly massive idiots; I can't really comprehend why our government's somewhat dubious stance on a particular drug has got into their minds to such an extent that they're even against pain management with the use of these drugs. Most people are at least somewhat aware that drugs prescribed by your doctor are potentially very damaging.

Bring on my bud cig!
 
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The UK is so behind in some areas of medicine it's embarrassing, the lack of availability of cannabis and consultants lack of use of very good drugs results in poorer outcomes for patients.

I am questioning the source though, do you have any more reputable sources? Such as a government website?
 
Some of their claims don't really add up. Whilst the usage of derivatives do have their use there would not necessarily be any need for them to be inhaled.
 
It would be nice to have legal alternatives to opiates and morphine.

My friend who has suffered fibromyalgia all her life, as well as back pain due to a nice ex husband trying to break it, and is now on ora-morph as NOTHING else even touches the side pain wise.

The problem is she has no choice but to suffer for upto 2 weeks with no pain relief just so she can use the morphine again for a while... because you become tolerant to it with constant use. Plus of course it had some pretty dire health consequences elsewhere with constant use.

The thing is people with chronic pain are often forgotten by people who tend to say things like "ahhh you look fine" and dismiss them as moaners. Just remember how grumpy and horrible we become with something like a toothache... imagine being in nearly constant pain, quite often what most of us would mark down as severe. People like my friend literally have to just put up with it and get brushed off when they have little moans and groans.

I help her in the bath ( we used to be in a relationship ) as she cannot always get in and out... and quite often i will have to come in and calm her down her when she literally bursts into tears because she has to get out of the bath where, for a while, she gets a little relief from the pain.. amazing what radox and hot water can do.

Alternate pain relief is something that many many people would benefit from and would greatly improve their quality of life... so any progress is good.
 
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Milkybk said:
Drug laws in modern society have failed in their current archaic form. Marijuana is genuinely not as bad as the stigma many people choose to brand it with. It can help people suffering pain or living with horrific illnesses, it's proven. In a modern day society I find it ridiculous that we can turn our backs on something with so much potential just because of laws made so long ago when things were far less understood.

People will jump on the "drugs are the devil" bandwagon though. If that helps them feel big about themselves for their own inherent shortcomings then I say have at it. However, at some point when they see the help certain things can provide a loved one they may shelf their pathetic, arrogant and old fashioned ideals they were spoon fed years ago and actually form their own opinion based on facts instead of doctored ****.
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I completely agree, just look at the possibilities for certain cancers and gloccoma, as well as other illnesses. It's benefits far outweigh any potential risks in my opinion


dirtychinchilla said:
I am going to be buying one ASAP! I doubt it'll get me high, sadly, but I want to try it. It has the potential to help me with Crohn's Disease, though. I hate the fact that I have to take some pills, which could potentially be very harmful in the long term, when there are less aggressive alternatives.

I find the Daily Mail is a hilarious gauge of people's outrage on things like this. Though, there are a lot of manic conservatives who think that as soon as anyone starts taking illegal drugs, they turn into mentalists.

If you read the comments on the DM there are quite a few with people who say they have MS and nerve pain etc and they find that cannabis really helps them, so what a massive relief for them to stay on the side of legality in relieving their pain.

There are also a few people, one in particular, who are going nuts thinking that "it will still get you high" and "you shouldn't be taking illegal drugs for pain management." These people are clearly massive idiots; I can't really comprehend why our government's somewhat dubious stance on a particular drug has got into their minds to such an extent that they're even against pain management with the use of these drugs. Most people are at least somewhat aware that drugs prescribed by your doctor are potentially very damaging.

Bring on my bud cig!
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indeed even the legal choices like morphine get you high in some way, so wheres the difference!?
 
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Anything that can help with chronic pain can only be a good thing. However, expectation and reality can be miles apart.

My wife had cancer that had spread to her hips. Her hips were pretty much destroyed so spent the last year or so of her life with the feeling of permanently broken hips. She was drinking the concentrated version of oramorph like pop.

A friend of her parents approached them and offered hemp oil. Claiming relief from pain and also claiming as fact that it would reduce her tumors. I knew I could approach the doctor and ask for her opinion and she said on a pain management level it could help but not in such a severe case as ours (we even discussed methadone). She also said depending on strain it was possible it could make symptoms worse - she had seen as much in her career and had no axe to grind at all with alternative medicine.

Not saying it's not a good idea but it's not the wonder drug some people perceive it to be. She also went on to say if drug companies could just grow a field full of weed and sell it on to worldwide health services would they really pump millions into other medicines? There is a reason it's not mainstream and it's not a big conspiracy theory.
 
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