EU Rules obesity can be a 'disability'

Burnsy2023 said:
I always use this example to counter that argument:

What if you're a ruby player and you get injuries from playing the sport over a long time. You end up having a bad knee injury and find it difficult to walk. Is that not a disability? The rugby player could have chosen to not play at any point so it's completely within their control to prevent it.
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Or if you have an injury that makes you disabled. But you don't do the months or years have hard physio that is needed. Do we say nope your fault. No different to not doing the hard work of losing weight.
 
John40 said:
I thought as much, nothing has, and the Daily Mail jibe is tiresome, boring and immature.
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This whole thread has completely sensationalised what has been reported, can't you see that?

As for the DM jibe, it may be boring, but it is backed up by fact. The DM makes money from sensationalising these types of stories - it's part of their business model.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
This type of news is half the reason why there is so much support to leave the EU. Small snippets of court rulings taken out of specific context and sensationalised beyond all recognition. If you take this stuff at face value of course it seems silly, but that's your fault for not actually using some critical thinking.
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Vote UKIP!! Bloody EU standing up for workers rights. We need a pray that will remove workers rights like UKIP.

In all seriousness your post is spot on and shows the problems faced. No context and sensationalism rules the day. All about headlines and it's ruining democratic process by skewing what the real issues are.
 
mattyg said:
It should never be classed as a disability. A disability should be classed with not having a choice or it being out of someones control.

Eating too many burgers is NOT beyond someones control.


I'm fat by the way. Too many Pizza's and burgers.
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agreed a life style choice is not a disability if anything it could possibly be considered an addiction due to weak will power

whats next alcoholism is a disability ? every addiction is a disability ?
 
balky12 said:
Maybe. The court has yet to decide. But if it rules in favour of obesity being a full blown disability I think it sends the wrong message.
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No that is not what the court is deciding at all. It's deciding whether they sacked him due to his weight, rather than let him go because there wasn't enough work. EU court has already ruled and it ruled it can be a disability just like it always has been. It's just making it clearer for companies.
 
It is a bit dubious to class it as a disability when it is something that there is at least some level of personal control involved too. The obesity association is also objecting on these grounds.

Frankly though it isn't clear whether he was sacked due to his weight I don't see why someone shouldn't be sacked if their excessive weight leads to them being unable to perform their job well.
 
balky12 said:
Maybe. The court has yet to decide. But if it rules in favour of obesity being a full blown disability I think it sends the wrong message.
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The message that employers should help their employees to be as productive as they can regardless of how big they are?
 
arknor said:
agreed a life style choice is not a disability if anything it could possibly be considered an addiction due to weak will power
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Lets also remember that people are obese for a variety of reasons, some of which may be totally out of their control such as long term steroid use which is treating an unrelated medical condition - which is completely out of their control.

But yeah, **** them right?
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Lets also remember that people are obese for a variety of reasons, some of which may be totally out of their control such as long term steroid use which is treating an unrelated medical condition - which is completely out of their control.

But yeah, **** them right?
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Funny you should say that they had a gp on the tv the other week who said that in his 30 odd years of experience he had never seen a really fat person who hadn't done it by anything other than over eating.
It was put to him about genetics etc and he said yes it's possible but he'd never seen one.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Lets also remember that people are obese for a variety of reasons, some of which may be totally out of their control such as long term steroid use which is treating an unrelated medical condition - which is completely out of their control.

But yeah, **** them right?
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Long term steriod use would imply that have a medical condition or a pre-existing disability already...

Long term steriod use doesn't make you obese. Atleast the two people I know who take steriods aren't...
 
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