EU Rules obesity can be a 'disability'

There are 80,000 people who are junkies and drinkers who are classed as disabled as a result.

Lets see some proof.

I think that is disgusting personally.
Two things. He's posted an arbritary figure with no evidence, take it with a pinch of salt until he provides something - and not something anecdotal.

Secondly, there are several reasons as to why people get hooked on drinks and drugs, and not always through choice.
 
I am not bringing money into this or benefits. I think it is wrong that someone who is obese through their own eating habits can use the term disabled.

Your first point is too broad. If someone got hit by a car and can't walk without assistance then yes, they are disabled. Regardless of possible improvements.

What's the difference?
If you don't do the physio that's your issue, if you dont reduce your eating same thing. Both are caused by the same thing. Mental block to stop or start doing something about it.

You seem to have zero point and just be but but but.

So you have no issue if I stop phyiso then. Although if I carry on then over a 98% chance of full recovery. You are incredibly blinded. they are identical situations.
 
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It's not, you're right. But like you highlighted some people are obese through no fault of their own because of pre-existing medical conditions or disabilities. They are already 'disabled' because of these pre-existing conditions, so you are not really arguing over anything for these people. They are already 'disabled'.

It's the ones that eat themselves to obesity that are the problem. Allowing them to use the term disabled is wrong imo. Why should they be allowed a blue badge because they eat too much?

No I agree there are some people who are generally lazy waste of spaces and I accept that they probably shouldn't be registered as disabled, but it's so hard to be sure if they aren't suffering mental health problems or other disabilities. If you or someone spotted an obese person coming out of their car with a blue badge, you'd probably instinctively think they are just fat - whereas there could potentially be other things wrong with them.

I think we need better education over nutrition, and make junk food less accessible - but that's a whole different debate - people are free to do what they want, but if you excuse the pun, one shouldn't have one's cake and eat it, and expect everything to work out perfectly.
 
If this is the case then I'm in the same boat here. You shouldn't be classified as disabled because you got yourself addicted to drugs..

Was re-watching the Russell Brand documentary on drugs the other evening where he met a neurologist who said they had studied the brains of people who struggled with addiction and they were physically different to those of everyone else.

In his view certain people are physically more prone to addiction than others. In which case, isn't it a physical difference like blindness or cerebal palsy?
 
What's the difference?
If you don't do the physio that's your issue, if you dont reduce your eating same thing. Both are caused by the same thing. Mental block to stop or start doing something about it.

You seem to have zero point and just be but but but.

Zero point?

My point is I think it is wrong that people who eat too much because they feel like it can categorize themselves under the same banner as people who are blind/ deaf/ autism/ MS/ etc.

Same with apparently drug addicts and alcoholics....
 
Zero point?

My point is I think it is wrong that people who eat too much because they feel like it can categorize themselves under the same banner as people who are blind/ deaf/ autism/ MS/ etc.

Same with apparently drug addicts and alcoholics....

They can't categorize themselves, just another mistake of a huge list you have made in this thread.
 
So you have no issue if I stop phyiso then. Although if I carry on then over a 98% chance of full recovery. You are incredibly blinded. they are identical situations.

What are you going on about? I don't know anything about you? Your injury or anything. If you don't want to continue your physio that's your choice. I would think you was a tool, but that's about it.

Unless you ate yourself to injury then yes, imo, you are disabled.
 
Lets see some proof.

Two things. He's posted an arbritary figure with no evidence, take it with a pinch of salt until he provides something - and not something anecdotal.

Secondly, there are several reasons as to why people get hooked on drinks and drugs, and not always through choice.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/356430/Crackdown-on-benefit-for-alcoholics-and-drug-addicts

Around 77,000 people claim sickness benefit, saying they can't work due to drug or alcohol dependency.
 
What are you going on about? I don't know anything about you? Your injury or anything. If you don't want to continue your physio that's your choice. I would think you was a tool, but that's about it.

Unless you ate yourself to injury then yes, imo, you are disabled.

Just lol. So you have no point, as I said.
What I'm going on about, is you inability to evenly distrabute your opinion for every circumstance. Yu have no issue with a car accident victim giving up phyiso and saying they are disabled, despite being able to rectify the problem, then saying obese is something different.

Yet again your aren't applying your own opinion fairly across everyone and instead are blinded and focusing on things you personally feel is bad.
 
They can't categorize themselves, just another mistake of a huge list you have made in this thread.

You said earlier

EU said it can be classed as a disability, it did not say it is a disability.

So if an obese person says 'I am disabled because I am obese' how can one turn round and tell them they are not, based on that EU ruling.
 
Just lol. So you have no point, as I said.
Yet again your aren't applying your own opinion fairly across everyone and instead are blinded and focusing on things you personally feel is bad.

How about instead of drip feeding information you tell me what you are under going physio for? Then I would be able to give you a decent answer...

I think it is wrong that someone who eats too much/ is addicted to drugs can be labelled under the same banner as those who suffer from the likes of blindness / deafness / autism.

It's not really that hard to understand and I bet quite a lot of people, feel this way.
 
So if an obese person says 'I am disabled because I am obese' how can one turn round and tell them they are not, based on that EU ruling.

Wow really, really?
Do you think people just go I'm disabled and that's that.
Gee not even worth replying to you, with that gem of wisdom.
Just wow.

In that case I'm disabled, oh no I'm not going to provide any evidence, doctor reports or anything else.
 
How about instead of drip feeding information you tell me what you are under going physio for? Then I would be able to give you a decent answer...

I think it is wrong that someone who eats too much/ is addicted to drugs can be labelled under the same banner as those who suffer from the likes of blindness / deafness / autism.

It's not really that hard to understand and I bet quite a lot of people, feel this way.

Blindness/deathless/autism isn't the only disabled qualification.

I'm not drip feeding anything, the injury doesn't matter. There are people who could rectify there injury but don't and are classified as disabled yet you have no issue with this. Yet this is no different to obese/drugs etc.
 
Wow really, really?
Do you think people just go I'm disabled and that's that.
Gee not even worth replying to you, with that gem of wisdom.
Just wow.

In that case I'm disabled, oh no I'm not going to provide any evidence, doctor reports or anything else.

Wait what? Obesity is a disabilty. What evidence do you need beyond the fact that you are overweight. It's not rocket science when it comes to obesity.

It's not like autism or epilepsy that require tests and your on a spectrum. Your obese or your not.
 
Wait what? Obesity is a disabilty. What evidence do you need beyond the fact that you are overweight. It's not rocket science when it comes to obesity.

It's not like autism or epilepsy that require tests and your on a spectrum. Your obese or your not.

Good god what an utterly stupid statement,

And yet again
CAN be a disability
The EU court didn't say it was a disability and off course you can't self diagnose.
 
Good god what an utterly stupid statement,

And yet again
CAN be a disability
The EU court didn't say it was a disability and off course you can't self diagnose.

ok bro. Bored of this.

MODS. Out of interest can we add a poll.

'Do you think it is fair that people who are obese solely because of their eating habbits could be labelled as disabled.'

Yes
No
 

According to DWP statistics for the second quarter this year (numbers in thousands):

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So, who's right. A crappy tabloid that can't even get the name of the benefit correct, or the government?
 
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