Voice your opposition to the Israeli actions for the past 65+ years

zoomee said:
Wrong again. Don't assume you know me.
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My apologies I always get you and Craterloads mixed up I never seem to remember which one has the jihadist views and has never been abroad and the one that has been abroad for a bit and has let that cloud his national loyalties.

zoomee said:
what are WE the UK doing about it?
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Why should we? The more the crazies are fighting themselves the less hassle we get over here. Divide and conquer it's how we got all them pink bits.
 
Xordium said:
My apologies I always get you and Craterloads mixed up I never seem to remember which one has the jihadist views and has never been abroad and the one that has been abroad for a bit and has let that cloud his national loyalties.

Why should we? The more the crazies are fighting themselves the less hassle we get over here. Divide and conquer it's how we got all them pink bits.
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Probably the worst post you've ever made on this forum. Thought you were above petty words aimed at insulting but I'm clearly proven wrong.

Again stop trying to make out you know me - I bet I do more for this country of mine (Yes the UK!) than you do.

Have fun ruling the world with your archaic way of thinking - divide and conquer lol. Peace.
 
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My apologies I always get you and Craterloads mixed up I never seem to remember which one has the jihadist views and has never been abroad and the one that has been abroad for a bit and has let that cloud his national loyalties.
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Coming from someone who sounds more like Rofflay day by day that is cute.

Why should we? The more the crazies are fighting themselves the less hassle we get over here.
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We can actually demonstrably show that isn't the case given the blow back the UK is facing at the moment.
 
Without something valid to say internet warriors often resort to pathetic attempts at defamation of character don't they Xordium. Unless you've got something constructive or valid to add I'd recommend the other thread you've been posting in to highlight your clearly bigoted views.

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Do you mean this thread where I am clearly being racist?

Xordium said:
The decision is being misrepresented.

Strange my kids school in 99% white and always gets outstanding. Maybe that is because irrespective of the actual racial mix they include appreciation and learning into the timetable something this school seems to not do according to the article you have linked.

What they are saying is that a school with 90% Asian and Black can still fail if it were to teach a purely Christian ethos with no learning devoted to diversity. A school (like my lad goes to) with a purely white population that then teaches about difference can get outstanding on this section of the report.

But why post that when we can stoke both sides up to get at each other again.
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Or this one here where I am quite clearly being anti-Muslim ..

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Again that is off-topic that is sex-offenders. Not necessarily CSA. Your earlier posting as I said already substantiates your argument and fits all established research - namely CSA is spread across all ethnic groups consistently - but in relation to grooming the is a very significant prevalence in the population group we are discussing.
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Or maybe I just call it the way I see it and you don't agree.

Oh and Craterloads - go re-read the Lee Rigby thread and think about what you said there before trying to take the moral high ground eh. I seem to remember a mod posting to say he was wondering whether to call the security services or not - Rotty or Gilly can't remember which one.

Or did you mean this really racist post?

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But that is what they article is saying. Ofsted judge the school on those provisions being available if the ethnic mix of the school does not make it possible.

Note the article you linked in the OP says:

"The report said: "The large majority of pupils are white British. Very few are from other ethnic groups, and currently no pupils speak English as an additional language.
"The school needs to extend pupils' understanding of the cultural diversity of modern British Society by creating opportunities for them to have first-hand interaction with their counterparts from different backgrounds beyond the immediate vicinity.”"

It doesn't say they need more black kids or asian kids or whatever kids ... just the odd field trip to meet people to back up their theoretical learning. In the same manner you read about the Romans and then you go and see some stones on the ground you all wonder what the fuss is about. That criteria could even be met by people coming to their school eg Ramadan Diwali etc.
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Yea you have got a bit a schizophrenic thing going on at the moment. Seems you are putting in an extra effort of late, after being called out numerous times, to prove to yourself or to others I don't know.

The one where I agreed fault? The one where another member of the forum agreed with me who wasn't Muslim also...
 
Hmm I think you are alluding to multiple personality disorder - that is rather different to schizophrenia. You may want to look into that.

No, it's quite simple let me clarify it for you.

I don't think uncontrolled immigration is good
I do think controlled immigration to meet national need is good.
I fully respect the rights of people to personally believe in a god or gods
I don't believe the state should support or prefer that option.
I believe populations of different races largely have the same intellectual and moral potential.
I believe due to the environment they grow up in some groups are placed in then they will exhibit certain behaviour that will make the decisions questionable both intellectually and ethically.
I did believe Muslim leaders should be more vocal about problems facing integration and the so called moderate Islamic message.
I have noted they have done so over the past few months,
I do believe child abuse occurs in all cultures and races and the evidence indicates that it is consistent in prevalence across them.
I do also believe grooming is a Pakistani Muslim orientated problem and the evidence indicates that too.
I believe Muslims have the right to believe in their god and their prophets.
I believe Islam is a religion that has multiple messages that are inconsistent with modern times.
I also believe this to be the case with Judaism.
I believe female circumcision is largely cultural in origin.

You see some things for some against - sorry I don't have to agree totally with you I also don't have to be dirtydog. There is this nice little area inbetween the black and the white called the grey. It is where you decide what you believe on what you observe and what you can prove with the best evidence available. It is not the area where you set your back against the wall consistently to defend something just because something is associated with you.

I find it quite amusing to get labelled as racist in beliefs by you two and apologists from the resident right wingers in others. It's like being the BBC the left and the right rail against you - something that hardly bothers me at all and confirms what I think I know.
 
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zoomee said:
Wrong again - If all I was interested in was reporting on muslim oppression I'd be giving you links to reports from burma, france, spain, america etc - but I'm NOT.

This thread is about Palestine. A subject close to my heart and one worth highlighting to my fellow Brits.
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Most of your posts in this thread relate to muslim oppression. You would give a balanced report if you were genuinely interested in highlighting the conflict.

You don't win support by hijacking threads.
 
At the VERY best you could say I highlight Palestinian oppression - not muslim oppression - clutching at straws much?

Over 380 palestinians have been arrested by Israel in the past 20 days alone.

The arrests add to the more than 5,000 Palestinians who are already being held in Israeli prisons, including hundreds without charge or trial under a procedure known as "administrative detention."

This administrative detention is responsible for torture and brutality not just towards adults but children as well. We here in the west are so quick to highlight it when it's happening in a supposedly 'muslim' country but when others are doing it, then it's called highlighting muslim oppression? pffft.

The palestinian cause isn't just a muslim cause - its a humanitarian cause. Shame you see them as sub-humans that you think they don't matter along with some others here on this forum.

600 children were arrested by Israel since last June aswell - 40% subject to sexual abuse by the IDF.

http://www.imemc.org/article/69791

Trauma surgeon Mads Gilbert has been banned from 'Israel' recently too - meaning he isn't allowed into Palestine due to his humanitarian work in Gaza's hospitals
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/15/mads-gilbert-surgeon-gaza-israel

Guess Israel's hands are clean right?

Trauma surgeon Mads Gilbert will defy Israeli ban on Gaza entry

Mads Gilbert : “I will not be stopped from returning to Gaza to do medical work. There are different attempts going on to conceal the reality on the ground for the good people of Gaza – this is one of them – and we must persist in resisting attempts to shutdown Gaza from the world.
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Some progress at last!

EU parliament backs Palestinian state ‘in principle’
MEPs back compromise motion on Palestine by 498 votes to 88 in latest in a series of diplomatic rebuffs to Israel
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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/17/eu-parliament-backs-palestine-state

Israel has been hammered by a series of diplomatic rebuffs across Europe after the European parliament voted overwhelmingly for qualified recognition of the Palestinian state.

The vote on Wednesday came on the same day as a meeting of signatories to the Geneva conventions warned that Israel must respect international humanitarian law in the occupied Palestinian territories.

The rare international meeting in Switzerland of the high contracting parties to the Geneva conventions was boycotted by Israel, the US, Canada and Australia.

In a further upset for Israel, the EU’s second-highest court ordered the removal of Hamas from a terrorist blacklist, citing legal problems with the listing, though it added that the Islamist group’s assets would remain frozen for three months pending an almost certain appeal.
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About time the UK recognises them officially too.
lol @ netenyahu playing the 'holocaust' card - man is that one wearing thin.
 
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lol Zoomee, everytime a nutjob does something bad in the name of Islam you bring up this thread again...
 
Dis86 said:
lol Zoomee, everytime a nutjob does something bad in the name of Islam you bring up this thread again...
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dude - get a grip - A piece of news which could change the course of events in this region and you see it as diversion tactics? lol at yourself bud.

McBain said:
European court? So?

This country considers Hamas to be a terror organisation, and that's good enough for me.
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The zionist groups who invaded, setup and still more or less run Israel are also well known terror groups acknowledged by the UK. If the state of Israel can be recognised so should the state of Palestine.

If you'd bothered to actually read the article you would see that the EU only added them to the terror list based on media conjecture and internet postings in the first place!! Hence their decisions to remove them from the terror list is now a correction on an error they made in the first place - A bit like what the UK should be acknowledging - but hey, we're never wrong are we?

Anyways - in response it looks like the Israeli's have started bombing Gaza again:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/12/israel-gaza-air-strikes-20141219224638419703.html

Funny how the media claim this is the first attack on Gaza since the last offensive - first airstrike maybe, but definately not the first attack.
 
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So an overwhelming 80%+ of UK MP's vote to have Palestine recognised officially.

What does the UK ambassador do for last nights vote to recognise Palestine officially? - yes that's right - he abstains /facepalm

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middl...lestinian-statehood-20141230212147910509.html

UN Security Council vote on Palestinian draft resolution

YES: Jordan, China, France, Russia, Luxembourg, Chad, Chile, Argentina.

NO: United States, Australia.

ABSTAINED: United Kingdom, Lithuania, Nigeria, South Korea, Rwanda.
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Pathetic hypocrisy at best.
 
Why did only 16 countries vote on it? shouldn't something as important as this be a global decision rather than just a few US puppets and easily bribable African countries? the majority of the world are in favour having so few countries vote simply helps it fail.
 
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15!

Because it was a UN security council member vote..

Of which there are five permanent members:
China,
France,
Russian Federation,
United Kingdom,
United States,

and ten non-permanent members elected for two-year terms by the General Assembly
Argentina (2014)
Australia (2014)
Chad (2015)
Chile (2015)
Jordan (2015)
Lithuania (2015)
Luxembourg (2014)
Nigeria (2015)
Republic of Korea (2014)
Rwanda (2014)

A State which is a Member of the United Nations but not of the Security Council may participate, without a vote, in its discussions when the Council considers that that country's interests are affected. Both Members and non-members of the United Nations, if they are parties to a dispute being considered by the Council, may be invited to take part, without a vote, in the Council's discussions; the Council sets the conditions for participation by a non-member State.
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