What's the self defence weapon of choice these days for women to put in their handbag?

A can of deodorant and a good quality lighter.

A friend of mine bought his wife a Glock as a Valentine gift. Ahhh, 'murican love...
 
Burnsy2023 said:
How about you stop posting crap and then people won't get worked up when they read the crap you post? Sounds like a good solution to me.
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Remember that time you posted about how if a man and woman were both equally drunk, the responsibility for gaining consent should always lie with the man, and as such he should be legally responsible for anything that might happen, and not the woman?

asim18 said:
Exactly what I'm thinking.

I said I'd feel sad for a woman who gets charged for the act of lawlessly saving herself from getting raped. And then I get taunted by burnsy for posting "crap".

What does that even mean?

Does it mean I'm not allowed to feel sorry? or does it mean he just feels like crap because a police officer would be obliged to charge her?
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I don't think Burnsy can be rational in these sort of situations.
 
Both are actually real weapons that you can make at home, but a rail gun wouldn't fit in a handbag obviously. A high power laser pointer however you can get for a couple of hundred off the internet and could easily blind an attacker.
 
spoffle said:
Remember that time you posted about how if a man and woman were both equally drunk, the responsibility for gaining consent should always lie with the man, and as such he should be legally responsible for anything that might happen, and not the woman?



I don't think Burnsy can be rational in these sort of situations.
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Given that he stated the law pretty well, I would say he was very rational.
 
In terms of self defence here in the UK, those saying 'confidence' are on the money.

Look and act like a victim, and you'll be treated like a victim. Sheer confidence in body language will send 90% of would-be attackers hunting for someone else. They don't want a fight -- they want someone they can mug or attack and then get away... quickly, and easily.

A bit of training and a few keys on a keyring doesn't go amiss, either. A few solid punches to the face with keys protruding from between the knuckles will put anyone off pursuing their attack rather quickly. It's probably the most legitimate excuse for a "weapon" that we have over here -- your keys were in your pocket, and you were forced to remove your hand from your pocket to defend yourself. The quickness of your response meant you had no time to assess that you were still holding them.

Of course, there's always the remaining 10% who are so drunk that they think they can take anyone on, or are genuinely just so mentally crippled that they're looking for whatever trouble they can find. On a random walk home, or to the car etc. you'd be unlikely to encounter one, though.



Note: 86% of statistics are completely made up.
 
spoffle said:
Remember that time you posted about how if a man and woman were both equally drunk, the responsibility for gaining consent should always lie with the man, and as such he should be legally responsible for anything that might happen, and not the woman?
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I said that guys should be responsible enough to make sure they have consent (or implied consent) even if they are drunk - which is reflected in law. Just because you are drunk doesn't give you carte blanch to do anything without consequences.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I said that guys should be responsible enough to make sure they have consent (or implied consent) even if they are drunk - which is reflected in law. Just because you are drunk doesn't give you carte blanch to do anything without consequences.
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You stated that if both people equally drunk, you believe that it's still the man's responsibility for anything that might happen.
 
spoffle said:
Suggesting that if a man and a woman were both equally drunk, it's still the man's responsibility for what might happen (not both) isn't rational.
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Erm, wait. Yes it is. Because the man is the stronger organism. Unless the woman involved is a feminist and then...

... oh hold on, ****. I'm not getting involved in this one.
 
spoffle said:
Suggesting that if a man and a woman were both equally drunk, it's still the man's responsibility for what might happen (not both) isn't rational.
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I didn't say the law was rational (although I believe it is), I said Burnsey's response was rational, as it summed up the law correctly. How did you manage to quote my post, and respond to it, without actually reading it?
 
OhEsEcks said:
You wouldn't get one as pistols are illegal in England, Wales and Scotland. You could have one in Northern Ireland as a PPW if you could prove that you needed one, or for sport if you were a club member.
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Not illegal, just require a section 5 licence. May as well be illegal though given how hard it is to obtain one from the home office, and personal protection would never be approved as a valid reason.

Edit - Don't mean to be a pedant, just thought that people might like to know the general way of thinking on the subject isn't correct.
 
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Meridian said:
I didn't say the law was rational (although I believe it is), I said Burnsey's response was rational, as it summed up the law correctly. How did you manage to quote my post, and respond to it, without actually reading it?
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I'm not sure what you're getting at, the law doesn't state that a man is the responsible one based on being a man. Burnsy stated in another thread a little while back that his opinion was that it's the man's responsibility, even if both parties were equally drunk. My comments about rationality were about that.
 
spoffle said:
You stated that if both people equally drunk, you believe that it's still the man's responsibility for anything that might happen.
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I said that the man has a responsibility to ensure that he is getting consent - not he is solely responsible for the whole situation as you seem to be spinning it.
 
A small can of wasp nest spray, though tbh i wouldn't advise a female to fight back if it's a male unless it's a sexual attack as males have so much more fighting experience and speed as a rule. That being said spraying the assailant in the face from the ground would be a good response to an attack.
 
4d maglight,


good for scoping out the alley before hand and also for beating the scummer to a pulp with.


either that or a nice solarforce in single 18650 size for in the bag but no beating abilities.

got mine for $30 or about £20 just add battery and charger :)

personally I keep a 3d Maglite tucked down the side of my seat in the taxi for scoping out those hard to see door numbers
 
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