[H] Assassin's Creed Unity Performance Video Card Review

[Tonester0011]

Lol
Even that post was babble...

How many keyboards have you managed to wear out?

 

[stulid]

Why are people worried about DM's post count, you dont have to read a post, no need to be mean to him.

 

[Gregster]

It baffles me how a UBIsoft game that uses GameWorks is the fault of nVidia (and GameWorks) but no mention of all the other buggy mess games like FC3 (that was part of AMDs bundle) and you feel we should read 4000+ words on complete garbage because you want to have a dig at nVidia (again and again).

To me DM, I used to give you the benefit of the doubt but you obviously want to try and bump up your AMD share prices, so an onslaught on nVidia and AMD being the good guys ensues every time with you. You accuse people who disagree with you of being "Fanboys" but reading your drivel is far worse than something Lamchop/Flopper would write and comes across as a hate campaign.

 

[Tonester0011]

Why are people worried about DM's post count, you dont have to read a post, no need to be mean to him.

I wouldn't want to block him, you never know. He might make a post worth reading. A post that's to the point and on the nail. Rather than the anti Nvidia rhetoric.

We can dream, eh.

 

[SirCanealot]

Ubisoft are an entire joke, along with many other games for differing reasons. People should stop pre-ordering games, shift the aim of the company.

Yeah, DM, if only you'd made a 140 character post I could take in and respect some of the fantastic points and pieces of advice you just gave everybody.

But since you actually tried to add more than one simple point to the discussion I'm going to have to accuse you of talking crap (which I would not normally do as this is a compliment to me ) and disregard everything you said.

Which is a shame as otherwise I was sitting here nodding while reading it while drinking my morning coffee and really enjoying it.

If you could edit it to 2-3 lines later that would be fab.

Edit: Actually, I can't believe the hostility that people are having towards a DM post that is actually trying to give advice and help people and is one of the most logical things I've read on here for a while. While the dude can over sensationalise things (something I'm addicted to doing as well, haha), everything he's said in that post is basically true and nothing he's said deserves insults :/

 

[Jamielicious]

This has been a very poor year for Ubisoft. I don't blame Nvidia or AMD or Intel or Samsung or EA or Sony or Microsoft. Ubisoft have only themselves to blame, and it is up to them now to restore confidence with whatever they have planned for 2015/2016.

Maybe they should focus more on doing 1 or 2 things well rather than try and do something for the new gen, something for the old gen, something a bit like GTA, something a bit like Need for Speed etc.

 

[Gregster]

This has been a very poor year for Ubisoft. I don't blame Nvidia or AMD or Intel or Samsung or EA or Sony or Microsoft. Ubisoft have only themselves to blame, and it is up to them now to restore confidence with whatever they have planned for 2015/2016.

Maybe they should focus more on doing 1 or 2 things well rather than try and do something for the new gen, something for the old gen, something a bit like GTA, something a bit like Need for Speed etc.

This guy gets it!

The point of blame lays entirely at UBIsoft and no other party. They have previously shown massive contempt to PC gamers and now they are even shafting the console gamers, so pointing the finger at others is frankly absurd and I can only see this having a negative effect on UBIsoft.

 

[Jamielicious]

You know it's bad for a company when articles appear comparing them to EA. I forgot The Division was a Ubisoft game, I'm guessing by the time it launches the car doors won't close anymore.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/11/12/congratulations-ubisoft-youre-the-new-ea/

 

[Evil Star]

Ubisoft are an entire joke, along with many other games for differing reasons. People should stop pre-ordering games, shift the aim of the company.

When people buy games on pre-order and buy broken games after release anyway where is the incentive to make games better and finished. If you can release a game every 18 months and get say 15mil sales on all platforms, a game that is finished and cost 20% more to make, or you can release a game every 12 months and still get 15mil sales while spending less making the game you're making more profit on each game and making games more often.

When people just buy whatever is spewed out the companies spewing out said games will continue to reduce the quality of games until sales drop. If sales drop and consumers tell them directly it's because your games are being not finished properly and profit goes down, we get better games. Basically if gamers act even marginally responsibly the shareholders will find the game every 18 months that is a actually finished and working game will make them more money, then that is what they'll do.

There is no conspiracy, people like money, they will do whatever is most profitable. It's 100% in the grasp of gamers to dictate to the company what is most profitable. When people buy **** broken games that aren't finished you're rewarding the company and giving them absolutely no reason to change what they are doing.

I didn't buy any of the recent ubisoft games(and yes, I've played all of them except FC4, boo hoo), I will buy them when they are fixed and working to the same level I would want any other game to be working at. If the price of the game has dropped from £35 to £5-10 in a sale by the time they get it working, that is THEIR fault, I'm 100% happy to buy the game WHEN IT'S WORKING.

I have finished none of the Ubi games, when the experience sucks, I don't play or finish said game.

I bought Dragon Age, while it has some buggy cut scenes and isn't anywhere near as good as promised or I hoped. It is what I deem a game, if I want to I can play hours of smooth game play without a ridiculous amount of bugs or horrendous performance.


What I will also point out is this, Ubisoft is Nvidia's biggest partner with games and their general TWIMTBP program. What the hell are Nvidia doing, I don't care about some gameworks feature if the game runs so poorly that both AMD and Nvidia users have massive problems with the game.


There are few to no Gaming Evolved games that come out unplayable and more to the point even those with features AMD worked on like TressFX run very close to as well on Nvidia hardware as AMD hardware. There is no absolute gimping of performance for half the audience, there is no "we'll put this feature in and even our own users can suffer with 20FPS if they want to use it" crap. What are Nvidia playing at, bundle Watchdog with your graphics card you sell at a higher cost than AMD do for the same performance, watch the development process, watch Ubisoft remove higher graphical settings, watch them kill performance and watch them prepare to release a stuttering mess of a game and.... do nothing about it?

I'll go back to Stalker, a TWIMTBP game(I forget which one, 2 or 3 i'm talking about), it was a buggy, broken, crashing mess. Stalker dev's said Nvidia didn't want to know, they pushed Nvidia out and AMD stepped in, helped them fix the game and added DX11 to it.

I don't know if Ubisoft games would run better without gameworks crap tacked on top of them, maybe, maybe not, but I do know that Nvidia is partnered with them and watches them release these POS games without saying a word. They didn't say to their users or gamers in general that even though they've seen the game for months/years, it's going to be a stuttering mess on launch, they didn't use public pressure to get Ubisoft to release a better finished game or to optimise performance before release for say Unity for their own users let alone AMD users. What is the benefit of Nvidia being involved if they do absolutely nothing about the quality of games coming out of it's biggest gaming partner?

Great post dm, Ubisoft are utterly incompetent and have treated PC gamers with disdainful apathy for the longest time. Nvidia need to get some quality control in their GameWorks program as Ubisoft are making it look like a joke.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Ubisoft should forget Gamework's or any other added in effects until they can actually make a game that runs decent on there own. Gameworks might not be to blame what so ever but it is associated with these games so will naturally take some Flak. Lets see how the Witcher 3 turns out with it's Gamework effects as CD PROJEKT RED are a good PC developer.

 

[tommybhoy]

Ubi/FC3 got a massive amount of abuse from both AMD/Nvidia camps, AMD obviously listened/got fed up with irate user base and dropped them.

Problem for Nvidia is Ubi/GW's are associated due to the partnership, surprised Nvidia don't have a bigger input on getting the games in a better state tbh.



@stulid, well said.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Ubi/FC3 got a massive amount of abuse from both AMD/Nvidia camps, AMD obviously listened/got fed up with irate user base and dropped them.

Problem for Nvidia is Ubi/GW's are associated due to the partnership, surprised Nvidia don't have a bigger input on getting the games in a better state tbh.



@Stulid, well said.

An old saying comes to mind.

If you fly with the crows you get shot with the crows.

 

[Freddie1980]

This has been a very poor year for Ubisoft. I don't blame Nvidia or AMD or Intel or Samsung or EA or Sony or Microsoft. Ubisoft have only themselves to blame, and it is up to them now to restore confidence with whatever they have planned for 2015/2016.

Sorry I disagree with Greg as I don't think Jamielicious gets it.

The fault isn't with anyone company but it's with the likes of us the gamer and the consumer who time and time and time again will go out and willing handover £30 for broken, unfinished, buggy games. Unless people wake up and recognise their buying Alpha releases game publishers have zero reason to change paths and we can all expect to be treated like the fools and get ploughed up the backside the next time a AAA title is due for release.

Ubi/FC3 got a massive amount of abuse from both AMD/Nvidia camps, AMD obviously listened/got fed up with irate user base and dropped them.

Problem for Nvidia is Ubi/GW's are associated due to the partnership, surprised Nvidia don't have a bigger input on getting the games in a better state tbh.



@Stulid, well said.

If I were Jen I would seriously have consider Nvidia's ongoing relationship with Ubisoft, having your brand associated with the rubbish Ubisoft puts out isn't good for them especially considering Nvidia's core market and how noisy the PC community are about bad game developers.

Perhaps if Nvidia did put out a press release which effectively dissolved their relationship it might shame Ubisoft into change?

 

[Rusty0611]

Why are people worried about DM's post count, you dont have to read a post, no need to be mean to him.

It's not the count it's the unnecessarily verbose nature of them. I used to read his posts and thought "perhaps a fair point but you could have said the same thing with about an eighth of the words" but now trying to find the point in between the sensationalist nonsense and zealotry is just too much like hard work for me personally when just browsing for the giggles etc. I tend to think down the lines of: 'if you haven't got anything to say which can't be said succinctly - don't bother'. It's not as if this is a particularly complex debate which requires that many words .

Alas, I digress...

On the topic of Ubisoft, they have certainly declined from already low standards with regards to PC. Their games on consoles always run pretty decently for me so tend to get them on there. While people are still buying these games which are awfully optimised there is little hope for change...

 

[Heisenberg]

Unity runs and plays fine for me. Had a few bugs but nothing game breaking. Performs really well, much better than the console version.

 

[opethdisciple]

Unity runs and plays fine for me. Had a few bugs but nothing game breaking. Performs really well, much better than the console version.

It plays fine for me too. I get the odd hitch here and there, but its 90% perfect.

The pop in is annoying tho.

 

[r7slayer]

Didn't ubisoft blame AMD at one point for one of their games running bad? Can't remember which one that was. The balls they got blaming anyone for their sloppy development. TBH i dont think it's nvidia nor game works im sure if Ubisoft took the time and effort to use gameworks properly it would work fine and other problems wouldn't exist too such as SLI problems or xfire or bugs n glitches. Just bad PR and bad as a business so far.

Untill gamers take notice and refuse to buy their games they wont take any notice.

 

[Stanners]

Didn't ubisoft blame AMD at one point for one of their games running bad? Can't remember which one that was. The balls they got blaming anyone for their sloppy development. TBH i dont think it's nvidia nor game works im sure if Ubisoft took the time and effort to use gameworks properly it would work fine and other problems wouldn't exist too such as SLI problems or xfire or bugs n glitches. Just bad PR and bad as a business so far.

Untill gamers take notice and refuse to buy their games they wont take any notice.

+1

 

[opethdisciple]

Didn't ubisoft blame AMD at one point for one of their games running bad? Can't remember which one that was. The balls they got blaming anyone for their sloppy development. TBH i dont think it's nvidia nor game works im sure if Ubisoft took the time and effort to use gameworks properly it would work fine and other problems wouldn't exist too such as SLI problems or xfire or bugs n glitches. Just bad PR and bad as a business so far.

Untill gamers take notice and refuse to buy their games they wont take any notice.

True. But this is a AAA title. I think also it's Nvidia responsibilty to work with the developer and get these things optimized properly, especially if they are going to have their brand name associated with the game.

 

[humbug]

Pile of crap.