Work budget

Luke_Bowman said:
Sorry I misread.

I don't know how old you are or what you do but, from minimal information, I think you're underpaid
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I'm 34, I'm a mess manager( it's a bit like a hotel, I provide bar, food and hotel services) in civilian terms I would be a hotel manager just a small 34room hotel
 
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[TW]Fox;27387730 said:
It doesnt work like that, it doesn't cost £17.3k to employ somebody on £17.3k, employers NIC etc goes on top.
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Correct, pension contributions, NIC payments and such makes the cost of an employee much higher.

Whoever said budget doesn't reflect pay is on to something. My multi-million pound budget responsibilities don't reflect on my salary! :D
 
LordSplodge said:
Correct, pension contributions, NIC payments and such makes the cost of an employee much higher.

Whoever said budget doesn't reflect pay is on to something. My multi-million pound budget responsibilities don't reflect on my salary! :D
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You should attribute some of that budget to "staff bonuses", ahem :p
 
woppy101 said:
I'm 34, I'm a mess manager( it's a bit like a hotel, I provide bar, food and hotel services) in civilian terms I would be a hotel manager just a small 34room hotel
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Move job, Whitbread (Brewer's Fayre/Table Table/Premier Inn etc) pay up to about £30k for a Restaurant/Hotel general manager. Deputy general manager is about £22-25k. Plus you'll normally get free accommodation (flats above the pub)
 
Mess Manager? Are you working for ISS now? If so, good luck getting a pay rise, as i'm sure you know everything with them is cost cutting/saving.

They have driven messes into the ground.
 
Can't help but think people arent actually answering OPs question (I could be wrong).

OP, does your salary come out of that £100k (soon to be £125k)?

Based on your question, you were basically asking for perspective on your salary VS the budget/ people you manage? And...if the fact you will now have to manage an additional £25k or 1 person should lead to you getting more money. To answer this question directly, the answer is no (in almost all instances).

As others have said, whilst the scope of what you're managing 'can be' slightly relevent to your salary, generally it doesnt have much correlation with how much you will be paid.

Back off topic somewhat - That really is a very low budget for 7 people!

Assuming this budget is split evenly (which it obviously isnt because its split between part time full time) -

£125,000 / 7 staff = £17,857

If you allow for Employers NI in this figure it looks something like this (Salary £16,660 + ENI £1,200)

Now if you make allowance for Pension contribution (if any), sick pay, holiday entitlement say this reduces the salary by £1,000.

This means 7 people are earning circa £15,600?

Whats alarming is if your salary isnt included in this - if you allowed for the part time staff earning approx 80% what the full time staff earn then this would mean that part time staff get £14,000 and full time staff get £17,000 approx. (although this allows for an even split of 3.5 part time 3.5 full time rather that 4 part time, 3 full time as I cant be bothered to work it out anymore lol). If your salary is included in this then these figures become much worse.
 
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Lima said:
Can't help but think people arent actually answering OPs question (I could be wrong).

OP, does your salary come out of that £100k (soon to be £125k)?

Based on your question, you were basically asking for perspective on your salary VS the budget/ people you manage? And...if the fact you will now have to manage an additional £25k or 1 person should lead to you getting more money. To answer this question directly, the answer is no (in almost all instances).

As others have said, whilst the scope of what you're managing 'can be' slightly relevent to your salary, generally it doesnt have much correlation with how much you will be paid.

Back off topic somewhat - That really is a very low budget for 7 people!

Assuming this budget is split evenly (which it obviously isnt because its split between part time full time) -

£125,000 / 7 staff = £17,857

If you allow for Employers NI in this figure it looks something like this (Salary £16,660 + ENI £1,200)

Now if you make allowance for Pension contribution (if any), sick pay, holiday entitlement say this reduces the salary by £1,000.

This means 7 people are earning circa £15,600?

Whats alarming is if your salary isnt included in this - if you allowed for the part time staff earning approx 80% what the full time staff earn then this would mean that part time staff get £14,000 and full time staff get £17,000 approx. (although this allows for an even split of 3.5 part time 3.5 full time rather that 4 part time, 3 full time as I cant be bothered to work it out anymore lol). If your salary is included in this then these figures become much worse.
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Thank you that's what I was after, and yes my salary does come out of my budget
 
The best way to get a pay rise is to be proactive in the job market and find someone willing to pay you more. If you think you are worth £26,000 (for example) go out there and prove it by finding someone willing to pay you that amount to go work for them. You then have a position of power to negotiate a pay increase with your current employer and find out how much they really value you as opposed to the minimum they can get away with paying. If they fail to cough up then hand in your notice and switch jobs.

Don't expect improved salaries to be given to you on a plate... Sometimes you have to go out there and force the issue.
 
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