Tired of AMD spec me please

[YB2ndBEST]

^^^^^ this... Also happened right around when the omega drivers came out. Worth a look.

 

[BluD]

It probably runs into a CPU bottleneck, also, not sure how well WoW works with mGPU. Just check your GPU load, if it ain't at 100% and you don't have a FPS limit, it's a CPU bottleneck.

Yeah im sure it runs into some sort of bottleneck, i already checked the GPU load, goes from 90% at 500 mhz to 70% at 1200 mhz, i just meant if it aint using my old card fully, theres no way its gonna strain his card.

nice find humbug

 

[Dubz]

I found wow somtimes get stuck in background which cause low FPS if you have background fps lock on so check that. Then last thing are you playing full screen? If not try that, sometimes my card gets stuck in 2d clock speeds using window mode.

Same fps just tried it

I skimmed through that thread, it seems some Nvidia users also have the same problem, while some AMD users also don't.

There is also talk of a Microsoft update causing problems, this much is true,
Its KB3004394, find it and uninstall it.

http://91.151.218.11/showthread.php?t=18642912

Tried searching for it and can't find it, so did they patch it?

I also just looked at my GPU activity and it went from 0-100 then went back down to 1-9 and went back up in chunks. is that normal?

 

[mmj_uk]

It might be worth trying your 2500K at stock speed to see if that helps.

My thinking is that budget Z77 motherboards are generally aimed at Ivy Bridge which is a much more power efficient processor than the older Sandy Bridge architecture, it's possible that your motherboard VRM's are throttling under the 4.4ghz overclock especially if you're raised the voltage quite a lot higher to reach it?

 

[humbug]

Same fps just tried it



Tried searching for it and can't find it, so did they patch it?

I also just looked at my GPU activity and it went from 0-100 then went back down to 1-9 and went back up in chunks. is that normal?

No its not normal, but what software is telling you is not always what is actually happening.

You won't find it by searching, if it is there you will see it in update history.

on my laptop:

 

[Dubz]

It might be worth trying your 2500K at stock speed to see if that helps.

My thinking is that budget Z77 motherboards are generally aimed at Ivy Bridge which is a much more power efficient processor than the older Sandy Bridge architecture, it's possible that your motherboard VRM's are throttling under the 4.4ghz overclock especially if you're raised the voltage quite a lot higher to reach it?

I'll give that a try later and update.

No its not normal, but what software is telling you is not always what is actually happening.

You won't find it by searching, if it is there you will see it in update history.

on my laptop:

Checked through it for 5 mins and its not there :/

 

[Dubz]

It might be worth trying your 2500K at stock speed to see if that helps.

My thinking is that budget Z77 motherboards are generally aimed at Ivy Bridge which is a much more power efficient processor than the older Sandy Bridge architecture, it's possible that your motherboard VRM's are throttling under the 4.4ghz overclock especially if you're raised the voltage quite a lot higher to reach it?

I've lowered it down to stock speed and theres really no difference.. Any more suggestions?

 

[mmj_uk]

Did you say that this was only caused by newer drivers? if falling back to older drivers helps then I can only assume it's a driver issue.

 

[Dubz]

Did you say that this was only caused by newer drivers? if falling back to older drivers helps then I can only assume it's a driver issue.

It came after the omega driver update, but since then i've reverted back to previous drivers with minimal changes

 

[Dubz]

I was just messing with settings on WoW and lowered it to the lowest (which i've done before) this time i gained like 30 fps, but with my rig shouldn't i be far from that?

 

[kaku]

CPU/GPU usage and clock speed charts would be useful for diagnosing this. You could use something like MSI Afterburner or OpenHardwareMonitor to check.

Might be worth running a 3dmark/heaven benchmark just to double-check you're getting roughly similar scores to similar systems - it's a good indication if everything is working as it should.

 

[Dubz]

I decided to reinstall BF4 after all this happened, updated to the new drivers and set my settings to ultra. I joined a 32v32 rush and little to no lag! So i guess its blizzard. Just one thing would anybody recommend a CPU, or any upgrades in general? I wanna upgrade, so I can start building my dad a PC.

Thank you for the help guys, you've been really patience with me (y)

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

WoW even after the latest expansion is still CPU dependent and so is BF MP.

Also,I have played D3 quite a bit and even with IB and Haswell Core i7 CPUs you can get framerate drops and I suspect it is no different with WoW too. Its probably another limitation,maybe on the server side?

 

[mmj_uk]

It came after the omega driver update, but since then i've reverted back to previous drivers with minimal changes

They might have messed up the registry or something, do you have a spare hard drive you can bang a fresh copy of Windows on? just avoid the Omega drivers for now.

 

[leon4112]

I would crossfire the 290. Upgrading to a GTX 970 is just not worth it. I went from a Radeon 7950 to a 970 and the difference in the latest games is not amazing or double as some would have you believe. Older games are faster but new games struggle.

Farcry 4 barely runs between 50-60fps maxed out and even Dragon Age has to be run without AA to runs between 50-60 fps. A 7950 ran these at only about 10-15 fps less. This is on an i7 3770 running at 4.3GHz. The higher bandwidth of the Radeons definitely makes a difference when game details are maxed out. Adding another cheap 290 would be the best bang for the buck at 1080p.

Thats strange i went from a 7970 ghz ed and the 970 wees all over it at every game bf4 ive gained over 60 fps in ultra on the whole its a better better card 7970 was a hog for no gain, power heat etc and wasn't fast these days.

And Dubz if you want a change like people where saying get a 970 its a very good card ive had amd last few and won't be again for various reasons which this post isn't the place for. plus like you said you have another machine for the 290.

 

[Dubz]

And Dubz if you want a change like people where saying get a 970 its a very good card ive had amd last few and won't be again for various reasons which this post isn't the place for. plus like you said you have another machine for the 290.

Okay is it worth getting anything else? I'm not too bothered cause all the old components are going to use.

Also,I have played D3 quite a bit and even with IB and Haswell Core i7 CPUs you can get framerate drops and I suspect it is no different with WoW too. Its probably another limitation,maybe on the server side?

I expect its their side after this. I've formatted and reinstalled

They might have messed up the registry or something, do you have a spare hard drive you can bang a fresh copy of Windows on? just avoid the Omega drivers for now.

I can give it a try i've been wanting to get a bigger ssd for awhile now

 

[BluD]

When you say you formatted. i assume you installed a fresh version of wow and didnt just use the same version from backup? If something has gone corrupt in your WoW ya might need a reinstall.

The only thing that ever causes that much lag in wow for me is dodgey addons. With an old version of bossmods/recount/arena addons installed you can easily get an FPS drop, i forgot to update interrupt bar once and got 1-4fps untill i figured out what was causing it.

 

[Dubz]

Yeah fresh install. I even tried disabling my addons and that didn't help.. Addons are all up to date. I'll check if its anything with ELV UI incase

 

[leon4112]

An dubs all the rest of your bits are fine

 

[Dubz]

An dubs all the rest of your bits are fine

I'm only saying cause I wanna build a second, surely I can upgrade a bit? All my old parts are going to use anyway