City Link collapses, 2700 jobs at risk...

you don't think if you run a business into the ground that you should be responsible for all debts?

What evidence do you have that the directors/executives of City Link "ran the business into the ground"? Companies fail all the time - it doesn't necessarily mean that the management was negligent.
 
All I can not add to this thread is, apart from it beng awful for the real poeple losing their jobs. lol at you arm chairs pros :D
 
£30k+ before tax a year if you work 5 days a week. Doesn't sound that bad to be honest :confused:

Dude, 70 x £0.50p is £35.

5*35 = £175.

52*175= £9100.

Where do you get 30k from?

Are you confusing what we chaege Hermes drivers when they want time off with what a Hermes OD actually earns?
 
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What evidence do you have that the directors/executives of City Link "ran the business into the ground"? Companies fail all the time - it doesn't necessarily mean that the management was negligent.

What would you blame their collapse on then? it's not like there's a shortage of parcels that need delivering is it? it's pretty much a golden age for the courier industry with everybody buying online.

People can criticise their drivers but atpbx has pointed out how little they got paid meaning they had to focus on volume rather than quality of service, is that the fault of the overloaded/underpayed driver or management for not paying them more and giving them less to deliver? others have pointed how little they charge for their services comparative to other couriers, is that the fault of the drivers or management?

If we hadn't sold the majority of Royal Mail off this situation wouldn't be as bad because RM could pick up their contracts for the time being, they aren't going to touch anything which will hurt profits now.
 
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lets say I start a company selling stuff on ebay, business collapses and I'm comfortably living in my £400k house but now have debts of 600k should I be able to write them off like millionaires seem to do?

A limited company is a separate legal entity to the people that own or run the business. For smaller businesses, a director will be asked to give a personal indemnity on any business loan or credit but for larger companies this is not usually the case.

If a director has ever acted in a way that is not in accordance to the best interests of the company and its members then that could be a crime and could result in them being banned from running a company in future.
 
What would you blame their collapse on then? it's not like there's a shortage of parcels that need delivering is it? it's pretty much a golden age for the courier industry with everybody buying online.

It's a competitive industry... The company has been losing money for years, the current owners bought it a year and a half ago for £1... they then invested millions in order to try and turn it around, they've not succeeded. The managing principle of the investment firm has lost 2million personally, his investors have all lost money on this investment... Yet people want some unspecified punishment to be levied on them because they took on a risk and attempted to turn an already failing business around.

I mean they attempted to polish a turd, they failed.. People were in their jobs for a bit longer thanks to their failed investment... yet they're rich people so no doubt they should be strung up to the nearst lamppost in the eyes if some posters.
 
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You're joking right?

I don't think he is.

I've even experienced the head office trying to back up theiving drivers. Like once when the woman on the phone told me it's better to identify a house by the colour of it's door rather than it's door number. Wouldn't be surprised if this company was simply a mammoth fraud at the roots. And what a time to announce it eh? Just in time to steal one final batch of Christmas consignments, the managers must be sitting in mountains of stolen Christmas presents.
 

For once... I'm with him.

CCTV from multiple sites, where drivers claimed to "attempt" collection, no where to be seen, and no cards left.

Some parcels had to be obtained by threatening legal action...

1. Directors shouldn't be liable or questioned for the business going under. As mentioned previously, there were investments made, and it didn't work out... no one should be shot for this.
2. There is a segment of staff within City Link who are grossly untrustworthy, which is probably why it went to pot. I stopped using them 2 years ago due to the stress.

All we can hope for is that the poor workers, don't migrate to other carriers and screw their service up without any measures in place to monitor them.
 
CCTV from multiple sites, where drivers claimed to "attempt" collection, no where to be seen, and no cards left.

Exactly. I've personally had this about 15-20 times.

Me: i havent recieved my parcel or any cards.
Them: you weren't in, we carded you.
Me: i've been looking out of my window since 9AM there was no van and there is no card
Them: It says here you were carded at 1:29PM.
Me: There is no card and your driver didn't attempt anything.
Them: It says here delivery was attempted and you were carded at 1.29PM.

Just used to go around in circles until they used to basically say "just tell the retailer you haven't received it and they'll send another one". Lovely how they never once thought "wait a minute the driver/handler/team could be the thieving scum."
 
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Although perhaps a horrible thing to say, I hope Yodel go this way too. Awful company.

What we need... is a state backed delivery firm! Something backed by the monarchy, it would give confidence in delivery and be recognised as trustworthy.

:D

I think we should call it... Royal Mail
 
What we need... is a state backed delivery firm! Something backed by the monarchy, it would give confidence in delivery and be recognised as trustworthy.

:D

I think we should call it... Royal Mail

:D:D:D Brilliant.

Sad to see people lose their jobs but not really surprising. Hopefully more companies use DPD and collect+
 
My mum's partner started as a self employed delivery driver with them a few months ago, went in this morning and got sent home. They still owe him 2 months pay, which he doubts he'll see any time soon if at all. Apparently they were a nightmare to work for, paying for one weeks work then not for the next fortnight and all sorts.

He knew quite a few people who have jumped ship to Amazon and others recently, so he's probably going to do the same whilst continuing to deliver part time for Tesco too.
 
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