Brilliant Adam Curtis short from last night on the BBC

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Politicians used to have the confidence to tell us stories that made sense of the chaos of world events.

But now there are no big stories and politicians react randomly to every new crisis - leaving us bewildered and disorientated.

And journalism - that used to tell a grand, unfurling narrative - now also just relays disjointed and often wildly contradictory fragments of information.

Events come and go like waves of a fever. We - and the journalists - live in a state of continual delirium, constantly waiting for the next news event to loom out of the fog - and then disappear again, unexplained.

And the formats - in news and documentaries - have become so rigid and repetitive that the audiences never really look at them.

In the face of this people retreat from journalism and politics. They turn away into their own worlds, and the stories they and their friends tell each other.

I think this is wrong, sad, and bad for democracy - because it means the politicians become more and more unaccountable.

I have made a film that tries to respond to this in two ways.

It tells a big story about why the stories we are told today have stopped making sense.

But it is also an experiment in a new way of reporting the world. To do this I’ve used techniques that you wouldn’t normally associate with TV journalism. My aim is to make something more emotional and involving - so it reconnects and feels more real.

BBC iPlayer has given me the opportunity to do this - because it isn’t restrained by the rigid formats and schedules of network television. It's a place you can go to experiment and try out new ideas.

It is also liberating - both because things can be any length, and also because it allows the audience to watch the films in different ways.

The film is called Bitter Lake. It is a bit of an epic - it’s two hours twenty minutes long.

It tells a big historical narrative that interweaves America, Britain, Russia and Saudi Arabia. It shows how politicians in the west lost confidence - and began to simplify the stories they told. It explains why this happened - because they increasingly gave their power away to other forces, above all global finance.

But there is one other country at the centre of the film.

Afghanistan.

This is because Afghanistan is the place that has repeatedly confronted politicians, as their power declines, with the terrible truth - that they cannot understand what is going on any longer. Let alone control it.

The film shows in detail how all the foreigners who went to Afghanistan created an almost totally fictional version of the country in their minds.

They couldn’t see the complex reality that was in front of them - because the stories they had been told about the world had become so simplified that they lacked the perceptual apparatus to see reality any longer.

And this blindness led to a terrible disaster - support for a blatantly undemocratic government, wholesale financial corruption and thousands of needless deaths.

A horrific scandal that we, in our disconnected bubble here in Britain, seem hardly aware of. And even if we are - it is dismissed as being just too complex to understand.

But it is important to try and understand what happened. And the way to do that is to try and tell a new kind of story. One that doesn’t deny the complexity and reduce it to a meaningless fable of good battling evil - but instead really tries to makes sense of it.

I have got hold of the unedited rushes of almost everything the BBC has ever shot in Afghanistan. It is thousands of hours - some of it is very dull, but large parts of it are extraordinary. Shots that record amazing moments, but also others that are touching, funny and sometimes very odd.

These complicated, fragmentary and emotional images evoke the chaos of real experience. And out of them i have tried to build a different and more emotional way of depicting what really happened in Afghanistan.

A counterpoint to the thin, narrow and increasingly destructive stories told by those in power today.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/TRAILER-TRASH

Whats your opinion on this? Do you feel the world of politics has become a tangled web of deceit and lies to confuse us and squash any real opposition?

The full show is here:

 
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How's the move to Australia going? You were moving over to there with that wonder job your wife was getting this month. Are you all sorted?
 
How's the move to Australia going? You were moving over to there with that wonder job your wife was getting this month. Are you all sorted?

How is this relevant to the thread? I understand why people spam one liner threads but this is a properly thought out and constructed one so I don't really see why you have to try and undermine the OP?
 
How is this relevant to the thread? I understand why people spam one liner threads but this is a properly thought out and constructed one so I don't really see why you have to try and undermine the OP?

He follows me around this forum, troll baiting and acting childish. Best to just ignore him, he never contributes anything intellectual to a debate.
 
He follows me around this forum, troll baiting and acting childish. Best to just ignore him, he never contributes anything intellectual to a debate.

There is a youtube thread already.
There also is a TV and film subforum too.
Was this by Charlie Brooker, or by Adam Curtis?
Both names seem to be mentioned, was it by one starring the other, or are the two threads not linked?

I don't have an hour to watch right now, perhaps you could summarise what you thought was brilliant.
 
I thought it was very interesting and tbh I don't think its tin foil hat material, just an observation.
The Russia and Ukraine bit was more sinister, but the UK side is just because politicians are money grabbing simpletons.
 
I listened to the first five minute piece.
It is factually incorrect on the first three points it makes about the UK.
It states no one is being prosecuted for crimes. These are crimes which took place 5 and more years ago under a different government.
It is based around the term 'nobody seems to know' which is utter tripe.
It is complete and utter twadlle.
It isn't 'Oh Dear' at all.

What do you find brilliant about this factually incorrect piece?
 
It was an excellent short piece, Adam Curtis is always thought provoking. Although I felt his idea for the UK failed occams razor, I mean a more simple explanation is incompetence, not conspiracy.
 
Charlie Brookers always pretty good for airing thought-provoking material and never afraid to go against the mainstream grain, all the closed-minded types will always find this stuff uncomfortable and it's fashionable nowadays to not even argue a point and to just mock and ridicule anything they don't want to or are indeed merely incapable of comprehending.
 
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It is factually incorrect on the first three points it makes about the UK.
It states no one is being prosecuted for crimes. These are crimes which took place 5 and more years ago under a different government.
It is based around the term 'nobody seems to know' which is utter tripe.
It is complete and utter twadlle.
It isn't 'Oh Dear' at all.

That sounds like a defeatist response to me.

These financial crimes didn't just happen 5 years ago, they didn't start or stop in 2007, they happen on a day to day basis. Have a look at any business section in any paper and you'll see all the top players embroiled in multi billion dollar scandals resulting in no prosecutions. Too big to fail and too big to prosecute. We're talking laundering drug money and rigging every market on the planet here.

These are private companies and private individuals that are still committing the same crimes, who was in government at the time is irrelevant. All it shows is that successive governments have failed to apply the rule of law to the city.

Twaddle indeed.
 
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