Lack of suitable property on the market

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So I've been window shopping for property over the past 4 months or so purely to get a feel for the market in the target locations I have in mind and it has struck me that there doesn't seem to be that much choice available within my budget. Below I have listed out my criteria in terms of what I am looking for in a house:

-150+ sqm floor area
-3+ bedrooms of reasonable size (10+sqm)
-Study (typically this would be a 4th bedroom but I just need a small room and not bothered about where it is located in the house)
-Ideally at least one ensuite on a good size room (for master)
-Rear garden (doesn't need to be massive but ideally not excessively overlooked)
-Walking distance to train station with direct line to London
-Decent sized kitchen
-Dining area (happy with kitchen-diner if it is a genuine dining area that can seat 6 people not just a small table wedged in somewhere i.e. 'breakfast room')
-Decent sized lounge (again would not rule out open plan kitchen/living area but would need to be LARGE)
-Ideally a playroom although could sacrifice this if the house has a large lounge and dining room
-Garage or off-road parking as a minimum
-Preferably not too quirky on layout i.e. bedrooms and bathrooms not on ground floor, kitchen/dining areas on ground floor, max 3 floors
-Turnkey i.e. reasonable finish with no requirement to do any significant work
-Safe/quiet area i.e. not on a main road or next to a pub/school, mostly nice houses on the street i.e. not blocks of flats etc
-Catchment area for good primary school

In terms of things I would compromise on that others might be fussy about:
-Don't care about age/style of property much i.e. not looking for character
-Garden doesn't need to be anything special
-Doesn't need potential to 'add value'
-Only need parking for one car
-Not particularly fussed about local amenities, nightlife etc

Now in a slightly unusual approach I will pre-emptively answer my own thread, if someone else had written this, my immediate reaction would be "you need to increase your budget". However what I've found by monitoring the market over a period of time is that these type of properties do sell within my budget - there just aren't enough of them! I'm prepared to pay about double the average house price for the area, and it is not as though only by paying 3x or 4x will I get what I'm looking for (although obviously that does bring a few more options in).

Other factor I suppose is the seasonal lull in the market i.e. over autumn/winter people focussing on other matters than selling their house and perhaps in spring there will be more choice.
 
What's your budget and what time commute and what part of London do you need to get to?
 
you have 4 options.

1) as you say increase budget.
2) get in touch with local estate agents with exactly what you want. they'll get in touch when they get one that matches.
3) buy cheap and modify/extend
4) build your own from scratch

I don't know many people that find exactly what they want and usually end up modifying an existing property.
 
you've basically listed an awful lot of peoples dream house so of course they are in short supply people won't sell them as they won't want to move and when they do sell they will sell super quick often without ever hitting the market. People target the London commuter belt and those living in houses you describe will receive dozens of leaflets and letters enquiring about the availability of the house. If you want to get one you need to be, quick, lucky and well prepared to bust your budget in a sealed bids war.
 
You haven't really asked the forum a question. What advice are you looking for??

Rgds

I think it is a rant. I tend to agree, a standard build of house doesn't meet the current expectations of a property. So you are left with either buying a house that has been extended to your requirements or extending it yourself. The former has limited supply and the latter can have complications. I spent about 2 years looking at every flat and small house with a reasonable budget and it is surprising how much rubbish there is out there. I don't know if I could face moving home when the time comes.
 
Are you after suggestions of areas to look at? If so what sort of commute you looking for, most people have a maximum time they can sit on a train for without getting irritated.
 
The end of the year is traditionally slower period.

Having said that, the problem you describe is a problem, hence why house prices are so high.

How do you know the types of properties you're interested sell or have sold within budget. Have you checked the land registry for recently sold properties? By recent I mean the last 2-3 months.

The price agents market properties for and what they sell for are often vastly different.

If you want to get a feel for the market, the only way is to start viewings and make some offers. It's very hard to get a real picture just by looking at right-move. Be prepared to offer the same day as viewing, and over asking if you find something that fits the bill.

The market is brutal in popular areas at the moment, often selling the same week they come on the market for 10-15% above asking.
 
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What's your budget and what time commute and what part of London do you need to get to?

Let's say £550k but with a reasonable degree of flexibility... as mentioned in other threads I never set a hard target that I must spend for anything but for a more complete range it is unlikely I would find anything suitable under £300k or would be able to spend over £650k (for which I would expect something exceptional and better than the criteria I outlined). Ideally looking to be in the City in under 90mins.

I think it is a rant. I tend to agree, a standard build of house doesn't meet the current expectations of a property. So you are left with either buying a house that has been extended to your requirements or extending it yourself

Yes it was more a musing/gentle rant than an actual question I suppose :)
I suppose while the type of home I describe is desirable, it probably isn't that profitable for builders compared to flats or modern terraced town houses in compact estates.

Are you after suggestions of areas to look at? If so what sort of commute you looking for, most people have a maximum time they can sit on a train for without getting irritated.

Not really, I've already had a thread along those lines and am moderately constrained in terms of location (in simple terms, SW of London i.e. Hampshire, Surrey, Berkshire sort of area). My dream location is Fleet. For family reasons Salisbury is also a possibility despite the distance from London, however I consider it to be overpriced (90mins to Waterloo and an atrocious local jobs market).

How do you know the types of properties you're interested sell or have sold within budget. Have you checked the land registry for recently sold properties? By recent I mean the last 2-3 months.

The price agents market properties for and what they sell for are often vastly different.

If you want to get a feel for the market, the only way is to start viewings and make some offers. It's very hard to get a real picture just by looking at right-move. Be prepared to offer the same day as viewing, and over asking if you find something that fits the bill.

The market is brutal in popular areas at the moment, often selling the same week they come on the market for 10-15% above asking.

Yes I've looked at sold prices (going back more than 2-3 months due to volume) but also just what asking prices were as due to lead time I won't have looked at that many properties for which data is available. 15% above asking is still within budget in most cases.
 
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Hi There, Have you considered Bedford?
The fast train to London St.Pancras is around 38 minutes.

Plenty available in your budget in the nicer areas/villages.
 
I think you just have to be ready to move quickly when the properties do come on the market. As above, you've mentioned an ideal family home for 99% of the people with families looking to move.

Actually, your budget is more tailored to 4 & 5 bedroom houses, not 3. Is your search criteria too small?

I looked for 4-bed+ houses in RG27 + 3 miles (Hook, mainline into Waterloo) and came up with over 200 properties
 
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RG27 is too big an area... within 3 miles of Hook station there are only 8 results under 550k of which 3 are the same house with different agents. Then of those 6 houses, 2 are over 2 miles away which is further than I'd like. This leaves 4 worth a closer look, upon which one finds all are under 150sqm in size (excluding detached garage).
 
Hi There, Have you considered Bedford?
The fast train to London St.Pancras is around 38 minutes.

Plenty available in your budget in the nicer areas/villages.

Too far north. My wife works in Southampton so ideally want quick access to M3 or similar.

There's plenty on the market for your budget, especially in Berkshire.

Not sure how many of the boxes this ticks, but looks alright to me:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/new-homes-for-sale/property-49693331.html?premiumA=true

House layout is good but no mention of a garage and is a bit too far from the station for my liking (prob a good 45min walk which I wouldn't fancy in winter). I'd already put it on my watch list however as otherwise seems good... maybe I should consider a bike :)
 
House layout is good but no mention of a garage and is a bit too far from the station for my liking (prob a good 45min walk which I wouldn't fancy in winter). I'd already put it on my watch list however as otherwise seems good... maybe I should consider a bike :)

Taking a look at the site plan it has a detached garage behind the property with a single space infront of it, then another allocated space just next to it

https://www.taylorwimpey.co.uk/find...-at-crookham-park/plot-648---the-silver-birch
 
Sounds like the markets broken? Scarcity of a valued commodity should increase value. Whoevers selling must be a bunch of idiots.
 
The market is broken, yes. I bought our house in Hook in June 2013 for £250k. An identical house two doors down with less driveway space sold this summer for £290k
 
The market is broken, yes. I bought our house in Hook in June 2013 for £250k. An identical house two doors down with less driveway space sold this summer for £290k

We noticed similar today, house opposite us (3 bed detached) was bought for 232k November 2013, it's listed as sold STC at 275k and probably isn't too far off the asking!

Which is a fair chunk more than we paid for ours at a similar time and we have an extra bedroom, double rather than single garage and 4x the drive space!
 
Hi There, Have you considered Bedford?
The fast train to London St.Pancras is around 38 minutes.

Plenty available in your budget in the nicer areas/villages.

Factor in the excessive train fare and crappy line then its hardly ideal.

My train fare from luton comes in at around £440 a month into London (including Z1-6)
 
Factor in the excessive train fare and crappy line then its hardly ideal.

My train fare from luton comes in at around £440 a month into London (including Z1-6)

I thought that until I moved to Reading, that line into Paddington makes First Capital Connect look quite good!
 
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