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Tegra X1 (Maxwell for mobile devices / car)

andybird123 said:
Underclocked to the same performance level yes.
If its not true they will be found out quite quickly.
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They've lied almost every single time in previous years, to Anandtech themselves who criticised Nvidia for it. Being told flat out said chip only used X power and was thus awesome only to find out months later after their review, which had been read by god knows how many people, which praised it that the power numbers were completely bogus and entirely changed the comparison from "beating" the other chip to having worse performance/w.

Nvidia lies about these things constantly and while a product isn't out for independent people to test no, they won't get found out very quickly. As above how many people read the incorrect numbers Nvidia purposefully gave to Anandtech in the original view, more importantly how many went back months later reading the amended review?


EDIT:- of course Anand has left the site and the site has been sold to the same company that own Tom's Hardware.... for the time being their level of credibility is.... questionable.
 
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With the 1.5W to 2..5W comparison, not only was it downclocked, but that was 'only GPU power rails', so far from any kind of valid comparison really.

Plus, it's an nvidia setup/reported figures, at least a pinch of salt is needed :p
 
Not quiet sure it has been posted before but here we go: The reason we did not use Denver on Tegra X1 is that we decided to take a "tick tock" approach to launching our processors. Since TX1 is on a brand new 20nm process we decided to use off the shelf ARM cores. But Tegra K1 was on a well understood [28nm] process and hence we decided to use Denver on it. We still have Denver on our roadmap and will be using it in our future chips as processes mature. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/nvidia-announces-tegra-x1-soc-with-maxwell-based-gpu/
 
siriq111 said:
Not quiet sure it has been posted before but here we go: The reason we did not use Denver on Tegra X1 is that we decided to take a "tick tock" approach to launching our processors. Since TX1 is on a brand new 20nm process we decided to use off the shelf ARM cores. But Tegra K1 was on a well understood [28nm] process and hence we decided to use Denver on it. We still have Denver on our roadmap and will be using it in our future chips as processes mature. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/nvidia-announces-tegra-x1-soc-with-maxwell-based-gpu/
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That's marketing talk for "Denver didnt work very well / at all in comparison to A57 on the 20nm process so we jumped ship to this core setup"

:rolleyes:
 
Ah a Tegra thread, and what have we got here... Yup, Potty with his rabid pro PVR fantasy chips and DM with the same old anti NV bile.

Oh but what's this I see, DM has a new schtick now. Trying to undermine Anandtech's results because Anand has left. Nothing to do with how their numbers and hard results were used to show up your misinformed bile for what it is in the last Tegra thread eh? Stay classy old chap.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
They've lied almost every single time in previous years, to Anandtech themselves who criticised Nvidia for it. Being told flat out said chip only used X power and was thus awesome only to find out months later after their review, which had been read by god knows how many people, which praised it that the power numbers were completely bogus and entirely changed the comparison from "beating" the other chip to having worse performance/w.

Nvidia lies about these things constantly and while a product isn't out for independent people to test no, they won't get found out very quickly. As above how many people read the incorrect numbers Nvidia purposefully gave to Anandtech in the original view, more importantly how many went back months later reading the amended review?

EDIT:- of course Anand has left the site and the site has been sold to the same company that own Tom's Hardware.... for the time being their level of credibility is.... questionable.
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Requoted for tinfoil giggles
 
Orangey said:
People love to rag on AMD for marketing, they're complete hypocrites for giving NV a pass. They never give a straight answer on Tegra power consumption because they can't bloody hit the envelope. They desperately want to be in phones but their chips don't cut the mustard.

And look at this for gods sakes:

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With Samsung and apple losing market share to xiaomi and other generics, and qualcomm losing market share to intel, i dont think nvidia has much interest in being in a market that is becoming commoditised

They dont have the budget to fully compete with qualcomm and intel and then even if they sell their chips to someone, the $100-200 phone market is the bit that is rapidly growing, so there is very little profit in it,

Samsung lost a third of their market share over 2014 which goes to show how hard fought the phone market is becoming
 
layte said:
Ah a Tegra thread, and what have we got here... Yup, Potty with his rabid pro PVR fantasy chips and DM with the same old anti NV bile.

Oh but what's this I see, DM has a new schtick now. Trying to undermine Anandtech's results because Anand has left. Nothing to do with how their numbers and hard results where used to show up your misinformed bile for what it is in the last Tegra thread eh? Stay classy old chap.
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Wow talk about arrogance.

Those are not Anandtech's results they are direct from NVidia which every single time in the past have proven to be a lie once people like Anandtech got hold of the real chip.

Clearly you have you don’t understand what you are reading just like the other threads where you failed in your argument. Those hard results as you call it are the power results from the X1 GPU rails only against the Ipad GPU, CPU, screen, sound and everything else. Try comparing the X1 GPU to the Ipad GPU only or the X1 GPU with CPU, screen, sound and everything else.
As for fantasy chip that the silliest thing I have read all day and could only be written by someone’s who is clueless on the subject. The GXA6850 is a real chip in I believe 100+ million devices now, certainly in the high 10’s of millions . How is that a fantasy?

Or did you mean the GT7xxx line of chips? Those are real as well just not shipping until the same time as X1. Why would you call the chips a fantasy?

Not sure why I am bother as like last time you will just all the ignore facts and figures you don’t understand.
 
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Pottsey, last time you made so many statements that were so wrong and proved wrong, of which you then just ignored and went on another PVR is great and the K1 is bad. I don't really care which is faster or better but I do like the tech and I know to take a pinch of salt with nVidia figures, as would anyone with sense.

Ohhh and usual trash talk from DM and I expect nothing less.
 
Gregster said:
Pottsey, last time you made so many statements that were so wrong and proved wrong, of which you then just ignored and went on another PVR is great and the K1 is bad. I don't really care which is faster or better but I do like the tech and I know to take a pinch of salt with nVidia figures, as would anyone with sense.

Ohhh and usual trash talk from DM and I expect nothing less.
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That's a lie. For the most part my statements are correct and backed up with facts although I did make a few mistakes which I admitted to. I never ignored anything.
 
Silent_Scone said:
Is this the same gent who thought ray tracing was apon us
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Yes that’s me and it looks like I will be correct. The ray tracing technology got developed and is ready to license as of 2014. The ray tracing API is out and in developers hands. Major game development engines like Unreal from Epic and Unity have added support. The echo system is being built up, videos have been shown, apps can be downloaded. Its getting closer.


Gregster said:
No it isn't and you have just admitted to "making a few mistakes".
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Yes I made a few mistakes but that’s a long way from the lies you just said. On the whole I was correct. Just look at all the stuff I said about metal that turned out to be true and now has wide spread support.
 
256 GPU cores. Eight CPU cores. More than a teraflop of computing power. And one big pile of awards at the biggest trade show on the planet, the International Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. It’s been a good week for our just-introduced Tegra X1.

We built our newest mobile super chip to crank out supercomputer-class power. Yet, the power-sipping processor is efficient enough to slide into a new generation of mobile devices, autonomous machines and embedded products.

- See more at: http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/01/09/ces-2015-awards/#sthash.SuiO9Uy8.dpuf
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http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/01/09/ces-2015-awards/

:cool:
 
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