Shooting at French Satirical Magazine

Craterloads said:
I work in town, get my lunch in town and am there nearly every day, and no don't sense any tension in town, just people getting on with their lives.

Where i have felt tension is in the scraggy estate areas like crag, holmewood, ravenscliff etc where surprisingly there isn't many minorities. Oak lane for example, where the riots happened, at one time you wouldnt see many white folk if i'm honest. Go there now and its brimming with everyone, because of the development of the park. Talking about the park go any day of the week and you will see people of all ethnicities sharing the spaces, joggers, mums with kids etc.
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Yep same expirences in them areas to be honest. It's a problem like you said you wouldnt see x or y in the area and some are changing but some are just getting worse. Bradford Moor Park is a prime example early morning every different race, creed, sex , age is out walking dogs etc. Go early afternoon, evening you don't see anyone else other than gangs of primarily asain youth. Integration in this city has gone downhill and it's making it more segregated and racial ghettos are been formed fact
 
ReltonBFD said:
Yep same expirences in them areas to be honest. It's a problem like you said you wouldnt see x or y in the area and some are changing but some are just getting worse. Bradford Moor Park is a prime example early morning every different race, creed, sex , age is out walking dogs etc. Go early afternoon, evening you don't see anyone else other than gangs of primarily asain youth. Integration in this city has gone downhill and it's making it more segregated and racial ghettos are been formed fact
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So the prime example you've given is that there are groups of young asians in a public park.

So it is a place going downhill and an example of it becoming a ghetto.

London would scare the crap out of you.
 
muon said:
You think any city doesn't have crime and problems with gang type violence?

It is isolated and blowing it up all out of proportion is pointless.

I've lived all over the "worst" parts of London and I just laugh at what people from outside or that have led relatively sheltered lives have to say about the places. I should apparently have been stabbed several times, shot once and all my belongings stolen.

Is the life expectancy in Bradford lower than other cities?
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I've worked all over the country, travelled the world and lived in Australia for the past 12months

I've met and become friends with every different person you could think of. Far from secluding my self.
 
dowie said:
it is pretty accurate to say that Christianity used to be fairly violent

killing people over heresy is violent
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it's even more accurate to say subsets of humans are violent.

Remove the common factor, retarded humans and you got... no violence.

In fact, **** it, glass everyone, whites and blacks. No more problems.
 
smelly_legend said:
it's even more accurate to say subsets of humans are violent.

Remove the common factor, retarded humans and you got... no violence.

In fact, **** it, glass everyone, whites and blacks. No more problems.
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you're going off on a tangent there

the original question was how can a religion stop being violent

Christianity used to be pretty violent - they don't call for the death of heretics these days though
 
You just goto love religion, it really does bring the best out in people. :eek:

So much character and passion, it really is amazing what FAITH brings to the table. :rolleyes:

Religion is a barbaric form of mind control. :mad:

RIP to those who died, very sad indeed. :(
 
ReltonBFD said:
Yep same expirences in them areas to be honest. It's a problem like you said you wouldnt see x or y in the area and some are changing but some are just getting worse. Bradford Moor Park is a prime example early morning every different race, creed, sex , age is out walking dogs etc. Go early afternoon, evening you don't see anyone else other than gangs of primarily asain youth. Integration in this city has gone downhill and it's making it more segregated and racial ghettos are been formed fact
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I've provided you with areas that used to be segregated (oak lane), that are now not, so your "fact" seems misplaced. Like i mentioned with the influx of eastern Europeans predominately Asian areas are not so predominant anymore. What you will find is predominantly white areas are still predominantly white areas, holmwood for example....

Go to the park in crag in the evening and you fill find gangs of white youth, is that not the same? Why is one worse than the other?

Integration has probably increased in most areas, apart from the predominately "white" areas if anything....
 
ReltonBFD said:
I've worked all over the country, travelled the world and lived in Australia for the past 12months

I've met and become friends with every different person you could think of. Far from secluding my self.
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How about in Bradford rather than places you've selected of your own accord? Why are places no go areas to you?

Do people still come to London even after the 2011 riots? Is the capital city of this country a dangerous place?
 
lemonade said:
So what if they are offended by cartoons? They have every right to be offended if they feel offended. I am offended by Japanese adult manga that depict kids. There is a fine line between being offended and committing a violent act, being offended by something doesn't automatically lead to a violent act.

People are offended all the time, cartoon or no cartoon, religion or no religion. So your point is really bizarre, and the comparison to Nazi Germany is another odd one, when you can apply the same logic to the West and brush everyone the same way too.
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Agreed, though I know a number of muslims who wouldn't be offended anyway.
 
Metro News - France | 7th Jan 2015 said:
Attack Charlie Hebdo, three suspects have been identified.

Their names and dates of birth are in police hands. Wednesday night, hours after the terrible attack against the newspaper Charlie Hebdo , the identities of the three suspects were known to the police.

It would be three men aged 18, 32 and 34. The two thirty, of French nationality, are brothers born in the 10th arrondissement of Paris.

They are named Said and Cherif K .. The nationality of the younger Hamyd M., SDF is not yet known.
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Link >> http://www.metronews.fr/info/attentat-a-charlie-hebdo-les-trois-suspects-ont-ete-identifies/moag!6R1qjYdgLbxjQ/
 
spudbynight said:
It is the test of a good religion whether you can joke about it.

GK Chesterton
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More really a test of the age of the religion, drawings making fun of Christ or the pope would get your family or village killed five hundred years ago in Europe when our Religion was the same age tens of millions of Christians were killed by other Christians over centuries over similar points, I believe Christianitys also likes to think of themselves as religions of peace.
 
n111ck said:
Arrests have been denied now.
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Link above says identified rather than arrested. Should hopefully be caught soon though.

Looks like one was known to the police, convicted and jailed as an extremist.

There goes the theory that the Muslim community wasn't doing enough to point these people out.
 
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