FreeSync monitors hit mass production, coming in Jan-Feb

Martini1991 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:25

No idea.
All I know is I wanted to die everytime I saw my girlfriend play it.
And even she noticed.

shankly1985 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:26

Martini1991 said:
No idea.
All I know is I wanted to die everytime I saw my girlfriend play it.
And even she noticed.

I can't get my girlfriend off it

Only reason I bought PS4 was because of her.

Least I get to play the odd ps4 gems though

bru · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:27

Just think about one simple thing, even if Nvidia were to say hey AMD go on go ahead and use Gsync no charge, they wouldn't use it. Even if they didnt have a competing technology, they still wouldnt use the competitors technology.

Of course this works for AMD and Nvidia. Neither would willing use the others tech.

Gregster · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:29

Martini1991 said:
But Nvidia GPU's not running Freesync has no relevance at all. It doesn't matter, it doesn't prevent Nvidia using Adaptive Sync. Same way Intel won't be using Freesync. It's like saying Nvidia can't use Crossfire. It's completely irrelevant.

And the post you quoted said quite rightly that Adaptive Sync isn't proprietary, which is the distinction to be made between Gsync and Adaptive Sync. Gsync's locked to Nvidia only. Adaptive Sync isn't. Freesync doesn't enter the equation.

I'm not being Shanks, that'd be absurd

It goes back to DM making nVidia out to be the bad guys and AMD the good guys and to grab a quote that I read before going to work this afternoon, this just winds me up.

upcoming commercially available FreeSync1-enabled displays at the 2015 International CES. The unveiling of new FreeSync-enabled displays demonstrates the industry's commitment to open standards-based technology that enables improved gaming by synchronizing dynamic refresh rates of the displays to the frame rate of AMD Radeon™ R-Series graphics cards and current generation APUs

http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2002910

So when proprietary (of which I seriously don't care about either) gets put into action and AMD claiming that that "Open Standards" and the "Eco System" blah blah but they are both as bad as each other (again, I don't care about proprietary) and even if nVidia and AMD were best buddies, I don't even think nVidia has the tech on the GPU to run Freesync or Adaptive Sync on their current GPUs.

Martini1991 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:30

Nvidia wouldn't be running Freesync! I wish people would stop saying this. It's not relevant!

Nvidia GPU's probably don't support adaptive sync at a hardware level. For realistic support of Adaptive Sync, Nvidia would release their new generation with the appropriate changes. Like every standard.

AMD have nothing to do with adaptive sync, it's not theirs. The only thing that is theirs is their proprietary implementation to use it.

Imagine Freesync is a key and Adaptive Sync is a lock. They're two different components.

There is no good guy/bad guy.

shankly1985 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:32

You two need to get a room or "TeamSpeak"

Gregster · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:36

Martini1991 said:
Nvidia wouldn't be running Freesync! I wish people would stop saying this. It's not relevant!

Freesync is software and nothing more. Adaptive-Sync is hardware. That is no different to DX9/10/11/12/MSAA and other things that are run at software (with compatible hardware) level. Why on earth couldn't nVidia run "Freesync" if it was "Open"?

Edit:

Not that they would have course and 40-60Hz leaves a lot to be desired.

Martini1991 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:38

Gregster said:
Freesync is software and nothing more. Adaptive-Sync is hardware. That is no different to DX9/10/11/12/MSAA and other things that are run at software (with compatible hardware) level. Why on earth couldn't nVidia run "Freesync" if it was "Open"?

Freesync ISN'T open. It's proprietary! It's irrelevant for Nvidia support of Adaptive Sync!

You obviously don't understand.

Adaptive Sync would be the DX standard in the example, you need compatible hardware for that standard, which currently isn't in the Nvidia GPU's.
Freesync doesn't enter the equation at any point as far as Nvidia is concerned!

Gregster · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:40

Martini1991 said:
Freesync ISN'T open. It's proprietary! It's irrelevant for Nvidia support of Adaptive Sync!

You obviously don't understand.

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you can't see what I am saying for whatever reason, so I will leave it there. We will do this another time Shanks.

Edit:

And even your edit is saying what I said...Are you playing dumb on purpose?

humbug · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:40

shankly1985 said:
You have a very special display then or you just like me dont notice it that much..

But I can 100% tell you as a 100% fact without Vsync you have screen tear wether you notice it or not

My display is an early IPS.

BTW, did you get my Email? no reply from anyone, no idea if they even got through.

Martini1991 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:41

Gregster said:
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you can't see what I am saying for whatever reason, so I will leave it there. We will do this another time Shanks.

You're the one who doesn't understand, but I'll leave you to your ignorance. Thought you were more mature, obviously not.
Freesync is NOT relevant to the Open Standard as far as Nvidia support is concerned.

Adaptive Sync is an open standard. Freesync is nothing more than an ability to use adaptive sync for AMD GPU's. Like Crossfire for 2 AMD GPU's, SLI for 2 Nvidia GPU's. Both vendors can use more than 1 GPU, SLI doesn't work with AMD GPU's, Crossfire doesn't work with Nvidia GPU's, both vendors have the ability to use multiple GPU's.

This would be the exact same thing (Their implementation to use adaptive sync from both vendors is prop, but adaptive sync isn't prop)

Tonester0011 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:45

I think I get what Greg is saying.
Adaptive is hardware, free is software to use said hardware

Will note, blissfully ignorant of either as I'm not interested

Wh

shankly1985 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:45

Gregster said:
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhh, you can't see what I am saying for whatever reason, so I will leave it there. We will do this another time Shanks.

Edit:

And even your edit is saying what I said...Are you playing dumb on purpose?

Leave me out of this thanks..

Nice Digs though. :rolleyes:

But you like a fly to me..

Gregster · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:46

Martini1991 said:
You're the one who doesn't understand, but I'll leave you to your ignorance. Thought you were more mature, obviously not.
Freesync is NOT relevant to the Open Standard.

Claim it as ignorance or whatever but AMD are the one's who strive for "Open Standards" and yet don't do "Open Standards".

Mantle isn't open
Freesync isn't open

If I am coming across as rude, it isn't intentional and apologies but a crap day at work and I thought you were sharper and could see what I was getting at.

Tonester0011 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:46

Lol.
You've been Shanked.

Gregster · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:48

shankly1985 said:
Leave me out of this thanks..

Nice Digs though. But you like a fly to me..

No offence meant and only jesting bud

shankly1985 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:49

And for the record Gsync also only performs at its best when frame rate is above 40fps...

Least that what it was last time I heard.. New display since then? Can remove PCper talking about it!

Martini1991 · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:50

Gregster said:
Claim it as ignorance or whatever but AMD are the one's who strive for "Open Standards" and yet don't do "Open Standards".

Mantle isn't open
Freesync isn't open

If I am coming across as rude, it isn't intentional and apologies but a crap day at work and I thought you were sharper and could see what I was getting at.

What you're getting at is wrong though. It doesn't make sense. Freesync/Nvidia is irrelevant. Bringing it up is ignorance of the subject matter.
Freesync isn't meant to be open, never meant to have been. It's an implementation for AMD's own GPU's to use the open standard of adaptive sync. Nvidia would use their own implementation to use the adaptive sync standard. Just like Nvidia/AMD have different GPU's to use DX11.

It's adaptive sync that is open (And this is what AMD/Nvidia would be using with their implementations)

Adaptive Sync exists as an open standard because of AMD getting it put through as a standard of the VESA spec, but apart from that, it's nothing to do with them now really.

humbug · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:51

Martini1991 said:
What you're getting at is wrong though. It doesn't make sense. Freesync/Nvidia is irrelevant. Bringing it up is ignorance of the subject matter.
Freesync isn't meant to be open, never meant to have been. It's an implementation for AMD's own GPU's. Nvidia would use their own implementation.

It's adaptive sync that is open (And this is what AMD/Nvidia would be using with their implementations)

Adaptive Sync exists as an open standard because of AMD getting it put through as a standard of the VESA spec.

You can't get anymore clear than that.

Gregster · 7 Jan 2015 at 23:52

shankly1985 said:
And for the record Gsync also only performs at its best when frame rate is above 40fps...

Least that what it was last time I heard.. New display since then? Can remove PCper talking about it!

Well that is wrong, as I have extensively tested G-Sync and anything at 31 fps or higher runs sweet but under doesn't.

Martini1991 said:
What you're getting at is wrong though. It doesn't make sense. Freesync/Nvidia is irrelevant. Bringing it up is ignorance of the subject matter.
Freesync isn't meant to be open, never meant to have been. It's an implementation for AMD's own GPU's. Nvidia would use their own implementation.

It's adaptive sync that is open (And this is what AMD/Nvidia would be using with their implementations)

Adaptive Sync exists as an open standard because of AMD getting it put through as a standard of the VESA spec.

Fair enough.