FreeSync monitors hit mass production, coming in Jan-Feb

[drunkenmaster]

That's what I thinking now DM,
I hear loads reports about IPS having slower response time and input lag vs a TN panel..

Never used an IPS display but I hear great things about them picture quality wise.
Headache now because BenQ was my number one buy.
I would have space for 2x 27" though

I'm somewhat thinking along the lines of, I need a bigger screen but I'll likely go for a cheaper one rather than the perfect screen or even worry too much about it. The 1440p upgrade has taken WAY too long but most companies are planning 120+hz 4k screens to go along with DP 1.3. So sometime probably mid 2016 onwards we should be seeing another new batch of screens. While I need a bigger screen to make work and other things easier, it will still be somewhat of a stop gap screen I feel before a 4k/120-144hz panel.

2015 looks like it's going to be a big year for oled tv's, as production increases and quality increases I think we'll potentially see 2016 or 2017 being THE year for monitors, oled time. Oled + 4k + ridiculous responsiveness + awesome colour accuracy. I think I'm going budget(ish, with minimum specs of 120hz+ and higher res/size than I have today) for now and I'll spend big when oled/4k becomes serious in a year or two.

 

[ubersonic]

EDIT:- also worth noting as in the video, it's adaptive sync but isn't branded anything AMD at all. Asus is such an Nvidia whore so their freesync screens won't get any mention they support freesync so as to not upset Nvidia.

That's because it's actually called adaptive sync, FreeSync is just a buzz word AMD use for it. Similar to how SEGA referred to Direct Memory Access as "Blast Processing".

 

[LambChop]

Yeah it's funny how Asus hide away Freesync support I wounder why?
If I was to pick this I would want to know 100% first if amd drivers will support this display.

Because its not a technically freesync monitor ?

 

[Silent_Scone]

Yet again there are people missing the point. This isn't about who got there first, it is about what is best for us as consumers.

• Gsync monitors are locked down for Nvidia only.
• Adaptive Sync monitors can be utilised by ANY GPU vendor as long as they adopt the VESA standard.

This will benefit us as consumers in the long run because we won't be tied to a particular GPU vendor based upon nothing but our choice of monitor.

It not about, which is bestest tech, or green vs red, or who did it first. Stop with the playground arguments. It's about what is best for us GPU enthusiasts in the long run. If this kind of tech ends up niche rather than standard we end up paying a premium.

Sorry but you're strictly the only one being blindsided by being passionate. This much is obvious by how addament you are without even seeing FreeSync in person.

No one-person is tied to a specific vendor, the only thing which may change is panel uptake. There is no way of knowing how the next few months will pan out.

 

[shankly1985]

I'm somewhat thinking along the lines of, I need a bigger screen but I'll likely go for a cheaper one rather than the perfect screen or even worry too much about it. The 1440p upgrade has taken WAY too long but most companies are planning 120+hz 4k screens to go along with DP 1.3. So sometime probably mid 2016 onwards we should be seeing another new batch of screens. While I need a bigger screen to make work and other things easier, it will still be somewhat of a stop gap screen I feel before a 4k/120-144hz panel.

2015 looks like it's going to be a big year for oled tv's, as production increases and quality increases I think we'll potentially see 2016 or 2017 being THE year for monitors, oled time. Oled + 4k + ridiculous responsiveness + awesome colour accuracy. I think I'm going budget(ish, with minimum specs of 120hz+ and higher res/size than I have today) for now and I'll spend big when oled/4k becomes serious in a year or two.

Yeah the 27" is bit off putting. I would rather keep 24" 1440p 24" would be perfect for me.

But sadly us who like 24" is getting ignored by the thinking everyone wants bigger!

The downside for me going 27" I would need to readjust, Mouse movement, Sense, DPi, More viewing.
Casual CSGO will after take main seat till I happy with my aim..
Hopefully it wont take to long to readjust.

 

[shankly1985]

Because its not a technically freesync monitor ?

But it is.. In the Video what I missed first time. He asked AMD and AMD said they will Support this monitor.

Sweet!"

"We have talked about G-Sync for what seems like years now and we got our first hands-on with AMD's FreeSync monitors earlier this week at CES, but the new ASUS MG279Q is in an interesting place: it is the first display that publicly supports Adaptive Sync and DP 1.2a+ but does not have an affiliation with either branded variable refresh rate technology. As it turns out though, that isn't bad news.

First, let's talk about the hardware. The screen is a 27-in 2560x1440 display with IPS panel technology and a maximum refresh rate of 120 Hz. High refresh rate IPS monitors are brand new and we are glad to see that ASUS is bringing one to the market so we can finally combine great color, great viewing angles and great refresh rates. The monitor supports DP 1.2a+ and Adaptive Sync which leads us too...

...the fact that this monitor will work with AMD Radeon graphics cards and operate at a variable refresh rate. After talking with AMD's Robert Hallock at the show, he confirmed that AMD will not have a whitelist/blacklist policy for FreeSync displays and that as long as a monitor adheres to the standards of DP 1.2a+ then they will operate in the variable refresh rate window as defined by the display's EDID.

So, as described by the ASUS reps on hand, this panel will have a minimum refresh of around 40 Hz and a maximum of 120 Hz, leaving a sizeable window for variable refresh to work it's magic."

 

[Mei]

That's what I thinking now DM,
I hear loads reports about IPS having slower response time and input lag vs a TN panel..

Never used an IPS display but I hear great things about them picture quality wise.
Headache now because BenQ was my number one buy.
I would have space for 2x 27" though

think of it like putting 20ms delay on your mouse yeh
some games it really doesn't matter
fps it usually does (not counting games like bf4 )

i do know a couple of very good players that swear by 60fps tho lol, but that's more because of the style they play, where prediction is big

what you are use to is usually the most important bit

 

[LambChop]

But it is.. In the Video what I missed first time. He asked AMD and AMD said they will Support this monitor.

Sweet!"

"We have talked about G-Sync for what seems like years now and we got our first hands-on with AMD's FreeSync monitors earlier this week at CES, but the new ASUS MG279Q is in an interesting place: it is the first display that publicly supports Adaptive Sync and DP 1.2a+ but does not have an affiliation with either branded variable refresh rate technology. As it turns out though, that isn't bad news.

First, let's talk about the hardware. The screen is a 27-in 2560x1440 display with IPS panel technology and a maximum refresh rate of 120 Hz. High refresh rate IPS monitors are brand new and we are glad to see that ASUS is bringing one to the market so we can finally combine great color, great viewing angles and great refresh rates. The monitor supports DP 1.2a+ and Adaptive Sync which leads us too...

...the fact that this monitor will work with AMD Radeon graphics cards and operate at a variable refresh rate. After talking with AMD's Robert Hallock at the show, he confirmed that AMD will not have a whitelist/blacklist policy for FreeSync displays and that as long as a monitor adheres to the standards of DP 1.2a+ then they will operate in the variable refresh rate window as defined by the display's EDID.

So, as described by the ASUS reps on hand, this panel will have a minimum refresh of around 40 Hz and a maximum of 120 Hz, leaving a sizeable window for variable refresh to work it's magic."

Its an adaptive sync monitor, with an AMD driver Freesync will work. Its not a Freesync monitor.

 

[shankly1985]

Its an adaptive sync monitor, with an AMD driver Freesync will work. Its not a Freesync monitor.

Really? I mean Really? You telling me something I already know...

I said that before. !!!!!

 

[LambChop]

Because its not a technically freesync monitor ?

But it is..

Its an adaptive sync monitor, with an AMD driver Freesync will work. Its not a Freesync monitor.

Really? I mean Really? You telling me something I already know...

I said that before. !!!!!

You didnt say that before, I said its not a freesync monitor, you clearly said it is. It's an Adaptive Sync monitor.

 

[Mei]

i did see some crazy bleed on the bottom of that panel too
something else IPS is great at lol
cant be bothered to screenshot it

 

[shankly1985]

You didnt say that before, I said its not a freesync monitor, you clearly said it is. It's an Adaptive Sync monitor.

What part that don't you understand?
"If I was to pick this I would want to know 100% first if amd drivers will support this display."

"But it is.. In the Video what I missed first time. He asked AMD and AMD said they will Support this monitor."
And what I said above that was to DM when he was saying about Asus in a love relationship with Nvidia!

And why did I say it is?? Well because AMD said they will support it! So therefore its FreeSync Enabled even if Asus don't say so.. ASUS have no saying in it if AMD support it.

It meets the FreeSync requirements..

Not getting into a couple page back and forth with you.. What ever happened to you blocking me? I think you should continue with that..

Have nice day!

 

[LambChop]

What part that don't you understand?
"If I was to pick this I would want to know 100% first if amd drivers will support this display."

"But it is.. In the Video what I missed first time. He asked AMD and AMD said they will Support this monitor."
And what I said above that was to DM when he was saying about Asus in a love relationship with Nvidia!

And why did I say it is?? Well because AMD said they will support it! So therefore its FreeSync Enabled even if Asus don't say so.. ASUS have no saying in it if AMD support it.

It meets the FreeSync requirements..

Not getting into a couple page back and forth with you.. What ever happened to you blocking me? I think you should continue with that..

Have nice day!

Good lord.

I've just been shanked haven't I ? lol

 

[Martini1991]

LOL.

 

[drunkenmaster]

It's funny because the single reason for including hardware support for DP 1.2a and including adaptive sync support currently, is to work with freesync. Nvidia may support it in the future, Intel might, but only AMD have stated they will support it and pushed the industry to support it, pushed to get it included in the DP 1.2a standard. The sole reason to put adaptive sync on a screen today is to use freesync..... but it's not a freesync screen.


In an industry in which for 20 years people will put any old label on a box as a selling point when your screen supports a feature AND that feature is free, unlicensed and has no cost to put said label on your box and you don't. Well lets just say you need a bigger reason to not put the label on the box than to add it.

G-sync is different, even if g-sync in the next year or whatever starts to support the adaptive sync method(as well as current method), Nvidia currently charge you to license g-sync, you have to pay them to be able to put the label on your box. If you don't pay them then even if you have hardware support Nvidia will blacklist the screen so the drivers wouldn't enable a feature that was in the hardware on both sides.

Asus didn't put a freesync label on because Nvidia is a big partner of theirs, no other reason. It's a freesync screen as much as the BenQ, the LG's and all the other ones in as far as there is adaptive sync and the only current hardware/software to use it is freesync.

The other screens simply put a free label on their things and added a feature to get more sales, Asus purposefully went out of their way to not advertise a feature of their monitor.

 

[LambChop]

It's funny because the single reason for including hardware support for DP 1.2a and including adaptive sync support currently, is to work with freesync. Nvidia may support it in the future, Intel might, but only AMD have stated they will support it and pushed the industry to support it, pushed to get it included in the DP 1.2a standard. The sole reason to put adaptive sync on a screen today is to use freesync..... but it's not a freesync screen.


In an industry in which for 20 years people will put any old label on a box as a selling point when your screen supports a feature AND that feature is free, unlicensed and has no cost to put said label on your box and you don't. Well lets just say you need a bigger reason to not put the label on the box than to add it.

G-sync is different, even if g-sync in the next year or whatever starts to support the adaptive sync method(as well as current method), Nvidia currently charge you to license g-sync, you have to pay them to be able to put the label on your box. If you don't pay them then even if you have hardware support Nvidia will blacklist the screen so the drivers wouldn't enable a feature that was in the hardware on both sides.

Asus didn't put a freesync label on because Nvidia is a big partner of theirs, no other reason. It's a freesync screen as much as the BenQ, the LG's and all the other ones in as far as there is adaptive sync and the only current hardware/software to use it is freesync.

The other screens simply put a free label on their things and added a feature to get more sales, Asus purposefully went out of their way to not advertise a feature of their monitor.

What would you know, you were annoyed earlier that there was no AMD branding as it has Adaptive sync lol.

 

[drunkenmaster]

What would you know, you were annoyed earlier that there was no AMD branding as it has Adaptive sync lol.

What, there is literally no logical connection between those two things, also I wasn't annoyed, I pointed it out because it's funny. Nvidia's main partner supports the opposing standard but doesn't actively publicise it because it would upset their main partner. It's both Nvidia being petty, Asus being a bunch of girls and the screen will work for me if that is the one I choose to go for anyway.

 

[LambChop]

What, there is literally no logical connection between those two things, also I wasn't annoyed, I pointed it out because it's funny. Nvidia's main partner supports the opposing standard but doesn't actively publicise it because it would upset their main partner. It's both Nvidia being petty, Asus being a bunch of girls and the screen will work for me if that is the one I choose to go for anyway.

Ahh, the convenient 'being funny' chestnut. Of course its Nvidia being petty, there's always something Nvidia is being blamed for. Even when ASUS bring out a screen which can run Freesync, its Nvidia's fault there is no mention of that support. If ASUS were that tight with Nvidia, would they have used the updated DP ? I think not.

 

[Mei]

What, there is literally no logical connection between those two things, also I wasn't annoyed, I pointed it out because it's funny. Nvidia's main partner supports the opposing standard but doesn't actively publicise it because it would upset their main partner. It's both Nvidia being petty, Asus being a bunch of girls and the screen will work for me if that is the one I choose to go for anyway.

i take offense to that!!, guys are way worse as proved by the endless squabbling on here
it is funny the way asus got around it tho!

 

[mmj_uk]

It's funny because the single reason for including hardware support for DP 1.2a and including adaptive sync support currently, is to work with freesync. Nvidia may support it in the future, Intel might, but only AMD have stated they will support it and pushed the industry to support it, pushed to get it included in the DP 1.2a standard. The sole reason to put adaptive sync on a screen today is to use freesync..... but it's not a freesync screen.

As far as monitor manufacturers are concerned Freesync doesn't exist, they've been ordered to meet a spec by the DisplayPort group that's all, at extra cost to them.. and they've met it. If AMD want advertising for their own proprietary technology (FreeSync) then they will have to pay for it. DP 1.2a is completely independent of Freesync.