Russia bans transsexual and transgender people from obtaining driving licences

Above&Beyond · 9 Jan 2015 at 14:41

oulton said:
Actually Putin has been with Alina Kabayeva for a while.

Oh yes please.

doofer · 9 Jan 2015 at 14:43

I think it's terribly sexist, I mean a woman becoming a man doesn't instantly make her a better driver, just like a man becoming a woman doesn't make him a worse driver. It's just pure sexist stereotyping.

Guerrilla · 9 Jan 2015 at 14:46

doofer said:
I think it's terribly sexist, I mean a woman becoming a man doesn't instantly make her a better driver, just like a man becoming a woman doesn't make him a worse driver. It's just pure sexist stereotyping.

spudbynight · 9 Jan 2015 at 14:49

doofer said:
I think it's terribly sexist, I mean a woman becoming a man doesn't instantly make her a better driver, just like a man becoming a woman doesn't make him a worse driver. It's just pure sexist stereotyping.

A man can get his bit chopped off. He doesn't become a woman, he is just a man who has had his bits chopped off.

esoteric · 9 Jan 2015 at 15:10

Maybe, Russia had problems with people curb parking too and this is their answer.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18648155

LordSplodge · 9 Jan 2015 at 15:43

BuffetSlayer said:
It's the first step to locking people away, or worse.

Nominate their particular preference or condition as a disorder. Categorise it as such.

Then make it illegal.

Then lock people up.

Page 1 of the happy dictators handbook! Simples

This is why I get really cross at the "nothing to hide brigade"

Craterloads said:
Well I don't believe men can turn into women and vice versa, and wouldn't date such a being.

Modern gender reassignment surgery is pretty good, right down to self lubricating tissue, so the constructed vagina acts like a real vagina. So it is possible you wouldn't know! Making a penis is still a little less convicning though.

Gender is complex but seemingly not to some on the OCUK forums. Typically black and white as usual.

Orionaut · 9 Jan 2015 at 16:13

Of course, the real question is...

Is there any statistical/actuarial justification for this move?

If there is, then perhaps the Russian authorities might have a point (Particularly as regards the compulsive gamblers)

If there isn't, then perhaps they don't and this is simply discrimination for the sake of it.

Ghosteh · 9 Jan 2015 at 16:57

This forum is so regressive some times, it's sad.

TheBDog · 9 Jan 2015 at 16:59

Orionaut said:
If there isn't, then perhaps they don't and this is simply discrimination for the sake of it.

I'd like to think that, given Russia's history of discriminating for the sake of it, that one can assume...

wildman · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:01

oulton said:
You are talking rubbish mate. Would you rather the islamic attacks came to city near you?

Russia is a straight up no bs society, which is why they don't have the filth and rubbish that we have to put up with in Europe.

but still they manage to have the a worse black market, racketeering and Mafia influence over any given EU country.....................

TheLegendOfMart · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:05

spudbynight said:
A man can get his bit chopped off. He doesn't become a woman, he is just a man who has had his bits chopped off.

The body might be but the mind isnt.

Dolph · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:06

TheMightyTen said:
The OcUK lowest common denominator attempts to drag it down to their level yet again

Russia is in a very strange place at the moment, it's both extremely right wing with massive elements of it's communist past underpinning it. Not unlike the masquerade the National Socialists pulled in Weimar Germany.

Russia isn't extremely right wing, it is extremely authoritarian, which occurs with both left and right wing economics and is a key component in the implementation of communism.

Hyburnate · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:07

Orionaut said:
Of course, the real question is...

Is there any statistical/actuarial justification for this move?

If there is, then perhaps the Russian authorities might have a point (Particularly as regards the compulsive gamblers)

If there isn't, then perhaps they don't and this is simply discrimination for the sake of it.

It's just plain and simple discrimination.

hyperseven · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:07

Sorry Frank-n-furter, bus for you matey

Malevolence · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:15

Why is there not the same outcry over women driving in Saudi Arabia?

Saudi law requires citizens to use a locally issued licence while in the country. Such licences are not issued to women, thus making it effectively illegal for women to drive.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia#cite_note-108 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia#cite_note-108

Edrof · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:21

Acme said:
"Seems a little harsh"

You don't say...

Dolph · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:25

Malevolence said:
Why is there not the same outcry over women driving in Saudi Arabia?

Saudi law requires citizens to use a locally issued licence while in the country. Such licences are not issued to women, thus making it effectively illegal for women to drive.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia#cite_note-108 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia#cite_note-108

There are campaigns against it, but these are new regulations in Russia, so will take the rights of people who currently have them, which makes it slightly different.

thep02 · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:28

Makes sense, they either start as out or become women

spudbynight · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:36

TheLegendOfMart said:
The body might be but the mind isnt.

A man with a disorder is still a man.

dirtychinchilla · 9 Jan 2015 at 17:37

oulton said:
Yes and I completely agree with them.

Much of the west in my view degressed from it's Christian roots now and is more of a hedonistic anything goes kind of place, reminiscent of Rome before the fall of the Empire.

Many people find public homosexual over-friendliness disgusting, myself included.

And many people, the compassionate and non-idiotic ones, don't care at all. Fortunately, that accounts for most of our population.

I'm delighted that we have digressed from Christian roots as I'd much rather live in a society based on evidence with at least an aim at equality, rather than what religious fanatics, such as yourself, would like.