Oxford University Press bans use of pig, sausage or pork-related words to avoid offending Muslims

^you can't say towelheads.

That's why he's saying it should be banned - just like the word ****** :rolleyes:

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This isn't a blanket thing, is it? It was guidance to a specific author writing for a specific project? 'Cause that's understandable, if for example it's a book aimed at the Middle East/Indonesia/whatever. Recently I read about a publisher providing geography textbooks to the region with an 'interesting' take on Israel/Palestine... I'll find the article... but that doesn't mean all atlases around the World will have a warped view of the facts on the ground with Israel/Palestine.

Edit :: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...tbooks-borders

Harper Collins, http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...t-9951550.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...m-9953993.html

This should be pinned as the 2nd post in the thread/
 
And that's what i really don't understand the hatred for Jews, they are hard working, integrate, industrious, don't try to fundamentally change the countries they move to. I like every Jew i have met and the lies certain people say about them are complete falsehoods.

I spent even more time with Muslims and i can say the complete opposite

Very few people "hate" Jews. The problem is Judaism and Israel seem to have been mixed and confused, largely by Israel and pro Israel supporters.

That means now when you voice your distaste for what Israel is doing in the Middle East it is construed as anti Jew, rather than what it generally is, which is distaste for Israeli foreign and internal policy, especially when related to Palestinians.

The same distaste would be seen if any other supposed western nation were doing the same thing.
 
Very few people "hate" Jews. The problem is Judaism and Israel seem to have been mixed and confused, largely by Israel and pro Israel supporters.

That means now when you voice your distaste for what Israel is doing in the Middle East it is construed as anti Jew, rather than what it generally is, which is distaste for Israeli foreign and internal policy, especially when related to Palestinians.

The same distaste would be seen if any other supposed western nation were doing the same thing.

Agreed I hate likud, its partner parties and their actions but have zero problem with the existence of Israel.
 
And that's what i really don't understand the hatred for Jews, they are hard working, integrate, industrious, don't try to fundamentally change the countries they move to. I like every Jew i have met and the lies certain people say about them are complete falsehoods.

I spent even more time with Muslims and i can say the complete opposite

Integrate, Netanyahu wants the Jews to all come "home".

Jewish people with the support of the state drive Palestinians of their own land.

The assault on the boat in international waters was probably a war crime.

Israel ignores international law and continues to build on occupied land.

Israel has used civilians as human shields.

They are as bad, if not worse than the people they say they are defending themselves against.

Israel engaged in a policy of only allowing an amount of food into Gaza that would provide the bare minimum to keep them alive.
 
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Doesn't matter, we got it off the Turks, and we gave it to the Jews for being awesome. Anyone else is a squatter.
Those millions of Arabs didn't all breed from a few shepards, they all moved there because the Jews made it a nice place to live. Which is what Arabs seem to like doing, moving from their own awful repressive countries into nice ones that other people have built, and then complain when they get there.

I think you'll find most of the Palestinians were there before Israel was created... When farms passed down through several generations of Palestinians are torn up and replaced with Israeli settlements it kinda shows who was there first and who are the interlopers...

PS. Remember, not all Palestinians are muslim (there is a significant proportion of Christians there as well), just like not all Israelis are Jewish (although Netanyahu appears to be wanting to change that with the new "Jewish bill of rights").
 
This is a really weird and awkward post. It says nothing about God hating pigs in any religious scripture.

People talking about things they don't understand, with authority, should make you sad.

Where did I claim I was speaking with authority? :confused:

Nor did I claim the scriptures explicitly said "God hates pigs" but was referring to the general notion that even an image or mention of one is "offensive" to some religious people.

There is a difference between "I don't eat pork" and "I don't eat pork and find anything even remotely related to pigs personally offensive", the latter seemingly being the narrative the OUP are putting forward.

Please explain why some religious people go beyond not eating pork, to boycotting any product with any relation to pigs at all if they don't believe their God hates the animal?
 
You should just stick to the bit where your faith says it's forbidden, and you wish to follow that.

I do - its forbidden to eat it - doesn't say anything about handling it, looking at it etc. None of the scriptures do!

My post was in response to estebanrays question - what religion thinks of pigs.

I quite frankly don't agree with the whole idea of not being able to mention pigs. The only problem is with eating them and just like most of us don't object to people being vegetarians - we shouldn't object to what people want to eat. That's their own business.

But to ban the word pig - thats just pathetic.
 
Yep, the banned list should include:

Muslim
Sharia
Londonistam
Islam
Religion of peace
Towelheads
Immigrants


Although that would stop several people ever posting threads again, not necessarily a bad thing though!

What utter nonsense. Banning that lot (apart from towelheads) would turn this forum into a police state.
 
Is it more offensive to mention pigs or pig products in a childrens' book, or to treat two religions like they are utter morons who need protecting from mention of certain farmyard animals?

Because, genuinely, I think that OUP's guidelines are actually quite offensive to the respective beliefs.

This

Jews and Muslims aren't supposed to eat pork, it doesn't mean their kids can't read say pepper the pig - that would be retarded.
 
I do - its forbidden to eat it - doesn't say anything about handling it, looking at it etc. None of the scriptures do!

My post was in response to estebanrays question - what religion thinks of pigs.

I quite frankly don't agree with the whole idea of not being able to mention pigs. The only problem is with eating them and just like most of us don't object to people being vegetarians - we shouldn't object to what people want to eat. That's their own business.

But to ban the word pig - thats just pathetic.

Yes but the list you posted was BS, complete and utter BS.

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Jews and Muslims aren't supposed to eat pork, it doesn't mean their kids can't read say pepper the pig - that would be retarded.

They shouldn't though, Peppa Pig is supremely retarded.
 
This forum is infested with some narrow minded people. First thing they see on the news and they jump to retarded conclusions.
First of all most muslims that are educated will not be 'offended' by pigs as some suggest here, they just don't eat it. How is that to understand? People cry about free speech and yet cannot respect someone else's beliefs/opinion.

Those that say they should go home if they don't like it here and all that nonesense. Some have been here for generations, pick up a book and read about why these people are here.
What about those white British muslims? Should they go home too?

Same subject everyday with the same people talking out of their backsides. :o
 
Where did I claim I was speaking with authority? :confused:
I never said you did, I said you were. With the two options you gave, you implied it had to be one of them.

Nor did I claim the scriptures explicitly said "God hates pigs" but was referring to the general notion that even an image or mention of one is "offensive" to some religious people.

That isn't a general notion. Some people might be offended, but not enough to say it's a general notion.

There is a difference between "I don't eat pork" and "I don't eat pork and find anything even remotely related to pigs personally offensive", the latter seemingly being the narrative the OUP are putting forward.

Sure there is, but there isn't any evidence to suggest they did that due to complaints. It seems they did it of their own volition.

Please explain why some religious people go beyond not eating pork, to boycotting any product with any relation to pigs at all if they don't believe their God hates the animal?
Because they're thick and don't understand the belief system they profess to be a part of, and hold on such high esteem.
 
This forum is infested with some narrow minded people. First thing they see on the news and they jump to retarded conclusions.
First of all most muslims that are educated will not be 'offended' by pigs as some suggest here, they just don't eat it. How is that to understand? People cry about free speech and yet cannot respect someone else's beliefs/opinion.

Those that say they should go home if they don't like it here and all that nonesense. Some have been here for generations, pick up a book and read about why these people are here.
What about those white British muslims? Should they go home too?

Same subject everyday with the same people talking out of their backsides. :o

Agreed.
 
I do - its forbidden to eat it - doesn't say anything about handling it, looking at it etc. None of the scriptures do!

My post was in response to estebanrays question - what religion thinks of pigs.

Everything you said though actually backs up what I was implying in my point B. That being is was probably sound advise when the Torah/Koran were written but is no longer relevant.

As dangerous as you think pigs are, the most common causes food poisoning are...

1) Campylobacter - Mostly undercooked poultry and burgers and shellfish.

2) Salmonella - Raws eggs/poultry

3) E coli - Undercooked meat in general

4) Listeria - Cheese

So you're far more likely to get ill from eating beef/chicken than you are from pork.

Further more, rice is probably one of the worst food stuffs for food poisoning. It can generate bacteria resistant to heat and is pretty volatile. Yet it is a staple food of many Muslims countries.

So we go back to my rationale point, should people follow food rules based on knowledge that was relevant thousands of years ago or by current knowledge tells us?
 
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