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Chuffing do-gooders and busybodies
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/shrug. It made sense when I typed it.
I think I meant it's not any good for growing on. As in, cultivation. You can't use this land productively because it's contaminated with mine waste.
But brambles technically don't need soil to grown in. They get everything they need from drinking the blood of their victims. Especially mine.
So here's a question to the room.
Let's say I don't *cut* the brambles. Let's say I simply trample them. Or beat them with a big stick (children love this, but I feel it leaves the job only half done).
Is is the act of cutting that you find objectionable? Or is it the fact that the bunnies/insects/larvae were there first, and I'm disturbing them?
Are you all really upset about these bits of waste land? I mean, seriously, genuinely, grieved? In my head it seems bizarre that anyone would care even the slightest bit.
Been doing the exploring thing for about year now. Nobody has said nuffin. Occasionally I bump into other people and we have a brief yarn about mines.
I guess we're a bit less up tight here in Cornwall
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OH THE IRONING
Post no.10, op's other thread in links.
Post no.10, op's other thread in links.
Honestly it is not your right to cut it so dont cut it. You dont own the land and it doesnt matter its not maintained etc. Im not saying it because I want to save the animals and insects but I feel you should have some respect for nature and the fact it is not yours.
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Does this exploring for old pits, mineshafts etc. involve going underground when you find them? Alone?
Lol! I'm terrified. Truly.
Well in that case I should stick to the roads, footpaths and bridleways. None of these old mines are on land that doesn't belong to someone. All land is owned. Most of it by the Duchy of Cornwall (aka Prince Charles).
What I look at is likelihood of causing harm. This is how I internally differentiate between cutting brambles and poaching tigers.
Both are no doubt illegal. So is walking through a field that isn't a public right of way. So is walking around a privately owned woodland. Or recording a radio programme. Or inviting your mates round to watch Game of Thrones when they don't have HBO themselves.
It's funny because I'm not doing anything that kids (and adults) haven't done for decades. It's not industrial scale clearance. It's the removal of brambles to create a small access path here and there. Is that so bad?
Whether the law is on my side or not, what is the actual, measurable harm?
No, I don't have a deathwish. I am aware of the numerous dangers of entering mines, such as false floors, ceiling collapse, etc. It's not something I'd ever recommend doing alone. Yes I've done it with others.
That's probably illegal too. I'm sure there's probably a law against entering old mine workings
Esp since I don't own them Walking there in my opinion is ok as long as you dont do any harm there but cutting it isnt. It just isnt yours to do so. I know its not what you want to hear but pretty much everyone is saying you shouldnt so that should be a hint.
If I owned a bit of land I would be happy to people walk around there and so but if they started cutting down paths etc I wouldnt be too impressed even if its just brambles. I would feel those people didnt have any respect for what is someone elses or to nature.
If I owned a bit of land I would be happy to people walk around there and so but if they started cutting down paths etc I wouldnt be too impressed even if its just brambles. I would feel those people didnt have any respect for what is someone elses or to nature.
That's too extreme, a flame thrower will do and if not at hand then petrol.
In this thread:
In response to:
You said:
In the thread you started about China:
In response to:
You said:
So in conclusion. Yes you are a massive hypocrite. Either that or you just say anything to enforce your side of an argument whether you actually believe it or not.
How about having some actual conviction in what you say in future.
Is this the same guy who wanted a £50k job despite clearly being pretty useless?
Can't help but love the hypocrisy of him trying to bag a job like that then moan about landlords trying to make a living.
In fact, after having just read the post above, i think the OP is a massive hypocrit about everything.
*awaits next foxeye thread for more material to laugh at*
Can't help but love the hypocrisy of him trying to bag a job like that then moan about landlords trying to make a living.
In fact, after having just read the post above, i think the OP is a massive hypocrit about everything.
*awaits next foxeye thread for more material to laugh at*
There are other forums?!
Exactly! Especially when in that other thread he was banging on about the badger cull.
Getting told how to do your job by someone who once read a paragraph about it on the internet.
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To explore an area without damaging it, or leaving any trace of your having been there once you've left is going to no harm, and whilst it's probably against access laws I doubt most landowners would care enough about it to actively chase you for it.
Start cutting paths through brambles though is damaging. Not damaging to the extent of hunting tigers perhaps (in your eyes anyway) but you surely accept that it is damaging the local ecosystem of the place? In intentionally undertaking this damage on someone else's land is something a lot of landowners would object to.
Think of it this way - a farmer might not be too happy about me walking along the edge of his field on the uncultivated border but will probably allow me to continue if I can satisfy him that I intend no harm. If that same farmer saw me walking straight through the field trampling his crops he would chase me off his land without question. What's different? If I walk along the border of the field I will have made no impact on the land, if I walk through the middle I'll leave, an albeit small, trail of trodden lost profit. Why shouldn't you treat every outdoor space with the same respect?
When in town do you throw your chocolate wrapper in the bin or just drop it?
No one is saying you'll destroy the world by cutting a track through the brambles or that it's on the same scale as hunting tigers, what they ARE saying is that you have no right to make ANY impact on that environment without prior permission.
Final question - you mentioned a machete in one of your replies on page one so how do you intend to get this machete to the area you're intending to illegally clear?