Help Tefal not die from his fat encrusted heart

FrenchTart said:
This is really tasty and low kcal though rather high in sodium...

http://www.pigpigscorner.com/2010/03/chinese-chicken-and-potato-stew.html

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/91742978

Instead of buying a butter chicken sauce pick up some onions, garlic, fresh ginger, fresh chillies, tomato purée and spices (cumin, coriander, fenugreek, turmeric will get you started). You can make a sauce in advance that will last you a good few days in the fridge, longer if you freeze.

edit: With regards to what you have eaten so far it's a bit hard to tell without proper weights/etc. The food mostly sounds fairly healthy. You don't need to completely cut sweet food out of your life though. If you start measuring things more accurately you can probably fit in something sweet as a treat on several (maybe all) days.
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when you make stuff from scratch on my fitness pal can you add all the ingredients as you add them then divide down to servings at the end?
 
Over shot on cars, way under on protein (but I did have a few sweet things today) got 400 kcal left to go though.


Might just eat a tin of tuna lol
 
Tefal said:
Over shot on cars, way under on protein (but I did have a few sweet things today) got 400 kcal left to go though.


Might just eat a tin of tuna lol
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Not sure if you posted this before your tuna can but 147 grams of protein is plenty :) If anything that's likely to be on the high side for you. A bit more (good quality) fat wouldn't do you any harm.

Evilsod said:
Ah ok, sorted it.

I've overshot on everything already and now I'm hungry again ><
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If you did a ton of climbing then eating 2300 will still mean you're in weight loss territory.
 
I've just realised something mfp is gonna go berserk with my eating being spread across two days isn't it?

Working nights means 2 meals before midnight the rest after?

I guess this will even out over the week but for today it's gonna look strange
 
FrenchTart said:
If you did a ton of climbing then eating 2300 will still mean you're in weight loss territory.
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Well, thats what I'm not so sure about :p

I did have a look into it to see if I could get a rough idea but its kinda useless. Different types of climbing burn completely different amounts. Your own build obviously plays its part. How long you actually spend on the wall rather than standing around chatting. Leaves me with no idea in the slightest how much it could actually be burning. Probably is enough to bump up the numbers a chunk but how much by is anyones guess.
 
Tefal said:
I've just realised something mfp is gonna go berserk with my eating being spread across two days isn't it?

Working nights means 2 meals before midnight the rest after?

I guess this will even out over the week but for today it's gonna look strange
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Yeah..that's going to make things awkward. I'd be tempted to log things according to your sleeping schedule rather than stick to MFP's idea of days but that will also be a bit of a pain in the arse. Fun stuff.

Evilsod said:
Well, thats what I'm not so sure about :p

I did have a look into it to see if I could get a rough idea but its kinda useless. Different types of climbing burn completely different amounts. Your own build obviously plays its part. How long you actually spend on the wall rather than standing around chatting. Leaves me with no idea in the slightest how much it could actually be burning. Probably is enough to bump up the numbers a chunk but how much by is anyones guess.
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Could be worth asking in the Climbing thread and/or the diet thread in SA? Maybe you already have, I dunno :p
 
FrenchTart said:
Could be worth asking in the Climbing thread and/or the diet thread in SA? Maybe you already have, I dunno :p
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I hadn't but I doubt anyone else has any better ideas tbh. There is just too much variation and its almost impossible to track how long you actually spend climbing (when bouldering is concerned anyway). The 'rock climbing' exercise on MFP has it at 809 calories for 60 minutes which is probably as good as any but at the same time, its kinda meaningless so I just haven't bothered to add it.

Circuit training tonight and MFP has that at 588 per 60 minutes but again, completely changes depending on what we're actually doing.

Makes more sense to just record it in notes.
 
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When they say rock climbing for 60 minutes that means actual ascent, not belaying, repels, sorting gear which in my experience is about 70% of the time (well 50% is lost to. Belaying for starters).

However climbing is very healthy, it just isn't a big calorie burner like running.
I purposely don't do any this calorie counting nonsense because it is just chasing arbitrary numbers. You see stuff like weit limits is x calories an hour but how heavy are the wrights, how many reps, what speed, what weight machines? A size of pizza is y calories but how heavy is that slice, how thick is that base, how much cheese or salami is there?

Jump on he scales once a week. That is all you need to know. If you are meeting your weight objectives carry on, if you are not over several months then make small adjustments to diet and exercise.
 
Something very simple is light/moderate exercise after you eat. That will reduce the fats in your blood.

Good luck with hitting your targets Tefal :-
 
Big Tasty burger with bacon, large fries, 9 nuggets, big Mac, McChicken Sandwich, large milkshake, large Coke, and a couple of sneaky double cheeseburger for the drive home :)

oops, wrong thread ;)
 
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So far keep falling get slightly under the calorie target found out avocado and ground almonds are epic for getting the healthy fats in though in a tasty way.


Also make some protein bars for ***** and giggles really not for serious but they turned out tastey.

Mfp is rapidly becoming my experimental recipe book, later this week gonna get some quinoa or coconut flour and try an male low carbon high protein bread. (Not be cause I need to but because this is a whole new set of things to cook with am I wanna see what I can make)

I didn't realise the tracking was this easy, should have done it ages ago when mischief first nagged me too ^_^
 
I'm finding mfp very useful, although I don't take the calorie numbers as gospel, the logging just encourages me to eat less.
 
Evilsod said:
I hadn't but I doubt anyone else has any better ideas tbh. There is just too much variation and its almost impossible to track how long you actually spend climbing (when bouldering is concerned anyway). The 'rock climbing' exercise on MFP has it at 809 calories for 60 minutes which is probably as good as any but at the same time, its kinda meaningless so I just haven't bothered to add it.

Circuit training tonight and MFP has that at 588 per 60 minutes but again, completely changes depending on what we're actually doing.

Makes more sense to just record it in notes.
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MFP's kcal estimates for exercise are often really far out. It estimates cycling kcal as around 50% higher than they actually are. I imagine rock climbing is a bit harder to measure than cycling and the like based on what you've said, which is unfortunate. Having a good idea of the kcal burn would be really useful as currently you might be under-eating.

D.P. said:
When they say rock climbing for 60 minutes that means actual ascent, not belaying, repels, sorting gear which in my experience is about 70% of the time (well 50% is lost to. Belaying for starters).

However climbing is very healthy, it just isn't a big calorie burner like running.
I purposely don't do any this calorie counting nonsense because it is just chasing arbitrary numbers. You see stuff like weit limits is x calories an hour but how heavy are the wrights, how many reps, what speed, what weight machines? A size of pizza is y calories but how heavy is that slice, how thick is that base, how much cheese or salami is there?

Jump on he scales once a week. That is all you need to know. If you are meeting your weight objectives carry on, if you are not over several months then make small adjustments to diet and exercise.
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It's perfectly possible to calorie count fairly accurately without it being a massive pain in the arse. I manage it. It's an incredibly useful tool if you're interested in taking whatever sport you're doing seriously and extremely useful for controlling your intake and cutting/gaining lean mass.

Tefal said:
So far keep falling get slightly under the calorie target found out avocado and ground almonds are epic for getting the healthy fats in though in a tasty way.


Also make some protein bars for ***** and giggles really not for serious but they turned out tastey.

Mfp is rapidly becoming my experimental recipe book, later this week gonna get some quinoa or coconut flour and try an male low carbon high protein bread. (Not be cause I need to but because this is a whole new set of things to cook with am I wanna see what I can make)

I didn't realise the tracking was this easy, should have done it ages ago when mischief first nagged me too ^_^
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Yeah. It's a bit off-putting at first but it rapidly becomes really easy :) Definitely post up the recipes after your experiments (assuming they're any good :D).

Uther said:
I'm finding mfp very useful, although I don't take the calorie numbers as gospel, the logging just encourages me to eat less.
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Normally the kcal and macro totals for food are accurate (though there are a few entries on there where people have clearly not bothered entering some of the data). The exercise kcal are completely out though. I always enter these manually.
 
D.P. said:
When they say rock climbing for 60 minutes that means actual ascent, not belaying, repels, sorting gear which in my experience is about 70% of the time (well 50% is lost to. Belaying for starters).

However climbing is very healthy, it just isn't a big calorie burner like running.
I purposely don't do any this calorie counting nonsense because it is just chasing arbitrary numbers. You see stuff like weit limits is x calories an hour but how heavy are the wrights, how many reps, what speed, what weight machines? A size of pizza is y calories but how heavy is that slice, how thick is that base, how much cheese or salami is there?

Jump on he scales once a week. That is all you need to know. If you are meeting your weight objectives carry on, if you are not over several months then make small adjustments to diet and exercise.
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Aye of course. And when you're bouldering that changes even more. You spend maybe 30 seconds max on the wall at a time. Depends hugely on the type. Endurance based climbing you'll typically burn more.

The problem is I don't keep track of what I eat particularly well. Its handy to have something to help do that, at least for the time being. Once I get a better idea of the quantities I can eat it should be easier to not have to keep track quite so rigidly.

FrenchTart said:
MFP's kcal estimates for exercise are often really far out. It estimates cycling kcal as around 50% higher than they actually are. I imagine rock climbing is a bit harder to measure than cycling and the like based on what you've said, which is unfortunate. Having a good idea of the kcal burn would be really useful as currently you might be under-eating.

Normally the kcal and macro totals for food are accurate (though there are a few entries on there where people have clearly not bothered entering some of the data). The exercise kcal are completely out though. I always enter these manually.
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Yeah it would be helpful to have an idea for the exercise. When it comes to the food I've just been entering it all myself from the packets, that way I know its right/myfaultifitswrong. For other stuff... bit of google and guesswork. Generally seems reliable.

How do you view the recipe's? It just comes up saying cannot find.
 
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