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It's Time For Samsung To Buy AMD, And AMD Should Let It

So which is it?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8625/amd-q3-fy-2014-quarterly-earnings-analysis

Revenue - Down on the same qtr last year.
Operating Income - Down on the same qtr last year.
Net Income - Down on the same qtr last year.

R&D Spending - Tracking down (this is the big problem)
http://ycharts.com/companies/AMD/r_and_d_expense

One of those posters trolls every single thread he goes into, one told you real information that can be verified.

Indeed.
 
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Seems I had a poor opinion of the 265 for no reason.
Yeah, I'd basically put the 265 as the PS4's GPU then.

I'm sceptical. It's always "AMD can do this, or that, or this and that" and it never ever ends up as such.
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/advanced-micro-amd-disappoint-q4-162004986.html

Will Advanced Micro (AMD) Disappoint Q4 Earnings Season? - Analyst Blog

Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD) is set to report fourth-quarter 2014 results on Jan 20. Last quarter, the company posted 25.0% negative surprise. Let’s see how things are shaping up for this announcement.

Factors to Consider

Advanced Micro’s third-quarter earnings of 3 cents missed the Zacks Consensus Estimate by a penny due to weak consumer PC market. Also, revenues were down sequentially due to lower chipset and GPU sales, partially offset by strong sales of semi-custom System-on-chips (SoCs).

Margins of 34.6% were flat sequentially but down 110 bps from the year-ago quarter due to unfavorable product mix.

For the fourth quarter, management expects revenues to decrease 13% sequentially (+/- 3%), due to lower semi-custom revenues and weak consumer PC environment. Non-GAAP gross margin is expected to be 35%. Operating expenses are estimated to be approximately $385.0 million and interest expense nearly $46 million.

Well, that looks like another loss then.
 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8625/amd-q3-fy-2014-quarterly-earnings-analysis

Revenue - Down on the same qtr last year.
Operating Income - Down on the same qtr last year.
Net Income - Down on the same qtr last year.

R&D Spending - Tracking down (this is the big problem)
http://ycharts.com/companies/AMD/r_and_d_expense



Indeed.

continuing downward spiral of income and revenue is what you said yet the link you provided says.

Q3 13, $48mil income, Q2 14 -$36mil income, Q3 14 $17mil income.... Q3 12 -$157mil , continuing downward spiral, really...or one quarter up, one down, one up... when it was anything from $157-300mil losses a quarter only a year before that.

Continuing downward spiral, over the past few years they've gone from an average $250mil losses per quarter through 2012 to profit in some and SMALL losses in some quarters.

I don't know if you know this but going from $250mil loss to a $48mil profit is an UPWARD trend, and -$36mil to $17mil is UPWARDS.

Claiming a continued downward spiral when the results are going up is nonsense. Under new management financial results have gone up, significantly and your own link agrees with that and shows absolutely no downward trend.

As for reduced R&D spending, no, the biggest part of R&D spending is wages of people involved. If you have 1000 engineers who suck fire then and bring in 100 great engineers then you can easily end up saving millions while also making better products.

The company was heavily bloated by the ATi/AMD merger, as most mergers end up, particularly in terms of senior guys with huge wages running departments and yes their huge wages end up being R&D costs when they are heads of R&D departments. The company was widely considered to have a huge amount of waste, restructuring to trim as much waste as possible has is done because it will save money and it does this by reducing on going costs which is reflected by the R&D 'budget'. The restructuring has saved them a huge amount of money. Some good guys will get cut out with the bad, it's pretty natural and unfortunate. But you need to cut back to the bare bones before you start hiring the right people which is what AMD(and many other companies before them) have done during restructuring.

The right guy controlling R&D can save you billions in R&D by going down less wrong avenues and simply making a better product in the end. If they got the right people in or not will probably show in 2 years when we see the results of the ARM/x86 architectures and see how competitive they are.

It sounds like they've switched from two x86 architectures to one x86 and one ARM architecture with a lot of shared ground(one uncore it seems) which again reduces the number of teams and engineers needed. They also don't forget had huge numbers of guys doing R&D into processes, a lot of there costs have gone from being called in house R&D costs to a business expense purchasing a service which doesn't count as R&D, the result should improve as a result. employ 1000 people who tape out 3 products a year or employ a firm who employ 5000 people who between them tape out 300 products a year... which will get you a better end product. It's not feasible to do everything in house any more, so again moving guys out though the cost isn't necessarily gone but moved around.
 
There you go chaps. Hard numbers, or blind faith, take your pick.

This is where I would post the simpsonsitsstillgood.gif if I could find it
 
I wrote this a couple of years back, when AMD first (publicly) courted the idea of being purchased by someone else:

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/324438,amd-wanted-dead-or-alive.aspx

With another shark circling AMD's troubled immersion-lithography waters (mmm, mixed metaphors) that same underlying fundamental of whether AMD as it presently exists, is worth more than what a buyer can make of its constituent parts seems to still be a concern. They got some excellent talent back on board the company for Zen (K12) but it's hard to see how even an epic new CPU wouldn't be worth just as much in another chipmaker's hands. Will be interesting to see what happens.
 
Mods please just delete this thread, it is just a place for Greg to troll people with anti-AMD articles with no discussion of GPUs or their uses.
 
Mods please just delete this thread, it is just a place for Greg to troll people with anti-AMD articles with no discussion of GPUs or their uses.

Mods please dont as it is freedom of speech and it is the AMD shills that appear to not like facts.

None of us want anything to happen to AMD but what is been posted are facts not opinions. SO lets all hope AMD bring something to the table that changes the companys fortunes and keeps the pressure on Nvidia/intel or whoever or the other companys will just take the urine with pricing even more!
 
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Mods please just delete this thread, it is just a place for Greg to troll people with anti-AMD articles with no discussion of GPUs or their uses.

More discussion of the huge home-heating uses of AMD GPUs must be included in every post!!!!!


But seriously, I'm pretty sure that a discussion of AMDs future is - whilst intimately related to their GPU division - just looking at things on a different scale. We can talk endlessly about how they're still fighting tooth and nail with Nvidia over GPU dominance, but it would be having a huge blind spot if we didn't notice they're a target for takeover nonetheless.
 
Mods please just delete this thread, it is just a place for Greg to troll people with anti-AMD articles with no discussion of GPUs or their uses.

Do stop whining in thread after thread please. Report the thread if it bothers you that much and let the mods decide, otherwise give it a rest.
 
Way ahead of you.

Good man.

Just to add, AMD should be posting their Q4 earnings at the close of business, so that should give another indication of what is what. I am sure the 970/980 has taken a chunk of sales from AMD. If I see it, I will post it up :)
 
Ouch!

AMD reported a huge loss of $364M in Q4 2014.

Intel and Nvidia had the best Q4 2014 with record revenues but unfortunately poor AMD had worst Q4 2014 with low revenues.
 
Agreed, but the fact that their PCU and CPU core markets are dismal right now makes a buyout more likely. AMD need investment which they can't do themselves, the shareholders demand a solution to porp uyp the company and with their bussiness as it iss it is much more affordable for the likes of Samsung to buy them up to snag the IP and knowledge.

I agree. My comment was aimed at those dreaming of a world where Samsung come in and throw endless amounts of cash at desktop CPU and GPU R&D.

It just wouldn't make sound business sense for them to do that, even if I'd love to see it happen to push the technology on.
 
AMD reported its fourth quarter and fiscal 2014 earnings after the bell Tuesday.

The semiconductor maker reported a net loss of $364 million, or 47 cents per share (statement).

Non-GAAP earnings per share were flat on a revenue of $1.24 billion.

Wall Street was expecting AMD to post earnings of a penny per share on a revenue of $1.24 billion.

The outcome is a stark contrast from a year ago, when AMD posted earnings of 6 cents per share on revenue of $1.59 billion.

For the fiscal year, AMD reported revenue of $5.51 billion, an increase of 4 percent year-over-year. However that figure is marred by the chipmaker's net loss of $403 million, a dramatic increase from the $83 million net loss it reported for 2013.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/amd-q4-earnings/

So a net loss of $403 million dollars for 2014. Looks like DM was correct when he said:
One of those posters trolls every single thread he goes into, one told you real information that can be verified.
 
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